DevilMag Frame Vs Logic Frame ?

[GoblinGreen]

I currently have a ULE RT,LVL 10, Omega Rail, ULT. (do have stock on/off as well)

I sent a mail off to Devilsden and he has confirmed that the devilframe will fit on the omega rail, and from what Ive read about the Logic frame it should fit straight on as well. My issue is the decision of which one?

To me it seems like the Logic Frame will be more beneficial but I just cant decide. Please help me make up my mind. I have no need to install eyes, If my Emag can run perfectly without them I dont see why I need them with these frames. Level 10 does the trick for me.

Both frames are $450 so whats better in your opinions for my setup?

[quik]

You'll probably get Logics a lot sooner.

[mandatory]

depends on how long you like to wait. I dont know about the logic frames turnaround time but I can tell you that I have been waiting since March 2nd (7 months) to get my devilmag and As of now I have no Idea when it will be done. I have gotten no new info from chris(devil frame) since early June, and quite frankly have never felt so robbed and taken advantage of. I am definatly just seen as a number in line, an e-mail address on the list, and a easy source for $715. The info and time estimates i have recieved have been ambiguous at best, and usually compleatly false. Obviously these are just my opinions, but the situation being what it is, I dont see any other way to feel. My brother on the other hand used his elderly wisdome to decide to go with the logic frame. Im not up to date on how those are going, but from what i read at least coohand (locgic frame) will tell you that he was too tired/drunk/crunk/bunk...to work on the guns. With me, honesty goes a long way. I would go with the logic frame, plus i personaly like how the LPR looks on the front and no ULT to mess with.

[MadPSIence]

You'll get the logic far sooner and it's also a better frame. The Devil is available only as a 90* or a modded hyper frame... most people like 45*. The Logic is a hybrid much like a 45* and is 100% made from scratch by Logic. It's also far better on batteries and the preorder gives you free anno + laser engraving.

easy choice really.

[GoblinGreen]

Thanks for the input. Kind of a bad vibe for the devil mag being so slow in production.

Im gonna look into the Logic Frame make sure all fits properly with my setup, I am under the impression that this mod is the Frame, VA and Blackhammer LPR which just needs to be connected to the Rail and away you go. Thanks again
Another bonus is I can pay via Paypal cause that whole Mail order/US bank cheque is a mission on its own.
I will also have a one of a kind marker in SA. hmmm

[Maggot6]

I'd reccomend Logic's frame as well...The time he is expecting to have these done is alot sooner, and it doesn't seem to only depend on his screwing up or wasting time, I think his board guys are taking forever as well.

[phantomhitman]

has logic released his yet, or does he have a round about date? I am interested in seeing how his setup works. If you take away a ult and add a lpr I do not think easier to work on is the phrase you are looking for either.

On the whole versus thing, get whatever you feel more comfy with. The electronics are the same.

[guysdaman]

depends on how long you like to wait. I dont know about the logic frames turnaround time but I can tell you that I have been waiting since March 2nd (7 months) to get my devilmag and As of now I have no Idea when it will be done. I have gotten no new info from chris(devil frame) since early June, and quite frankly have never felt so robbed and taken advantage of. I am definatly just seen as a number in line, an e-mail address on the list, and a easy source for $715. The info and time estimates i have recieved have been ambiguous at best, and usually compleatly false. Obviously these are just my opinions, but the situation being what it is, I dont see any other way to feel. My brother on the other hand used his elderly wisdome to decide to go with the logic frame. Im not up to date on how those are going, but from what i read at least coohand (locgic frame) will tell you that he was too tired/drunk/crunk/bunk...to work on the guns. With me, honesty goes a long way. I would go with the logic frame, plus i personaly like how the LPR looks on the front and no ULT to mess with.

I feel you mandatory...I paid on the 25th of January! And am still waiting like most others to hear any scrap of information.

[Chronobreak]

all im gonna say is ignore every post in this thread


first go to toe offical devilamg thread, and skim around reading replies, maybe pming somone with one.

also look at logics thread.


im sure youl notice some differeances.

that is all..

[SCpoloRicker]

Second the "you people are morans" comment. Jeez.

How many frames has Coolhand shipped to customers? If you think he is not going to have difficulty with his own production process... you're probably a 19 year old "inovator".

Pissy, I know, but I'm tired of the constant whining.

[MadPSIence]

Second the "you people are morans" comment. Jeez.

How many frames has Coolhand shipped to customers? If you think he is not going to have difficulty with his own production process... you're probably a 19 year old "inovator".

Pissy, I know, but I'm tired of the constant whining.

of course he could have trouble, but he's being realistic about how things are progressing the only real screw up now is if TAG takea a few weeks extra or the Anno guy is slow. I don't see that taking 8 - 10 months so Logic Frame > Devilframe this far.

why don't you just go talk about how silly I am on the thorums hey?

[SCpoloRicker]

of course he could have trouble, but he's being realistic about how things are progressing the only real screw up now is if TAG takea a few weeks extra or the Anno guy is slow. I don't see that taking 8 - 10 months so Logic Frame > Devilframe this far.

why don't you just go talk about how silly I am on the thorums hey?

1. He is basically in pre-pro with his frames IIRC. Go ahead and pre-order if you're so confident. He needs the money to get the project going.

2. Do you really think you have an exclusive liscence on being an irritating college kid?

[MadPSIence]

1. He is basically in pre-pro with his frames IIRC. Go ahead and pre-order if you're so confident. He needs the money to get the project going.

2. Do you really think you have an exclusive liscence on being an irritating college kid?

1. I pre-ordered a long time ago
2. Welcome to my ignore list. Link

[SCpoloRicker]

Oh noes!

Foutes l'accord d'ici!

[mandatory]

I just want to make clear that my basis for reccomending coolhand over GAdevil is honesty. Chris has lied to me, either directly or implied, on multiple occations and especially in the beginning when I was making my purchase decision. I call that fishing, and I dont find it to be a very "friendly" business practice. I dont like being treated as some faceless pray. Im sure there were things he could have told me or warned me about back then, pre-purchase, that whould have caused me to buy something different, but obviously he wasnt gonna tell me about them. It wasnt untill after the 05 AO norcal vs socal, the implied date we were trying to get the gun done for, did he start hinting that it could take months rather than weeks. And even then he kept giving me the "..hopefully we will have them done next week.." to keep me up at night wondering if it was gonna come, paying for tournaments that I wouldnt be able to play in for lack of a competative gun. Now All my excitment about the gun has all but turned to resentment and regret, not because of the wait, but the way i have been treated by Chris as well as some on AO. There were many things Chris could have said in the begining as well as along the way that would have prevented this situation from happining, but unfortunatly he chose not to.

On the side of coolhand, other than buying a 90* frame from him last year I have no expierence with him. So i guuess what im saying is that I recomended coolhand by defalt, not because I prefer him, but because I dont have any bad expierences with him.