Perfect Circle

[Lohman446]

As nice as the historical perspective is though its not '94. Paint sold at $100 a case today (or more, I pulled that number out of nowhere and those who have posted above indicate a much higher price) is simply not competetive. Most tournamentst that are $80 a case are also FPO so the idea that you can compete with artifically inflated prices there is not that valid.

[Muzikman]

I know it's already been said but,

Perfect Circle is a daughter company of AGD.

They make plastic seamless paintballs for many applications.

They are expensive

But the big problem I personally see with using these over current paintballs is that the shells will never degrade. This means that the field will be litered with broken plastic shells and they will be there for quite some time.

[SCpoloRicker]

But in '94, we got 2500 balls per case!

I actually remember being upset that cases went to 2000 when I got back in a year or so ago.

[mag88888]

my local field still charges $75, thats not even for the really good stuff.

[scrumpy]

One of my local fields charges somewhere around $130 for whitebox cases. This is justified by their gracious free entry and rentals.

[BlackVCG]

Having a shell of polymer, they require much higher speeds in order to break.

Not really.

The XM 303 was designed to be shot at under 280fps. Granted, the projectile was almost double the mass and thus had a greater KE value, the polymer shell breaks consistently and with "ease."

The Sydarms were lucky to get above 280fps.

[rkjunior303]

A local field used to charge $130 for Rec-Sport cases.

[hitech]

The first time I met Tom he was attempting to market Perfect Circle paintballs. They had the advantages of shattering instead of collapsing like gelatin paintballs do. No more ring welts. They would hurt less than current paintballs. They also had no raised seam... Tom never did say that would make them more accurate, but we ALL assumed it would.

The reason that PC paintballs never made it to market is that the price of paint dropped right when Tom was trying to market them. He couldn't compete price wise. They also didn't turn out to be any more accurate. This is what Tom told me when I asked him why they never "made it".

[AGD]

PC paintballs actually broke easier than gelatin balls because they would "snap" and shatter. As an example you could shoot a flourecent light bulb and not break it. We used to do that all the time in police training to show the cops. Of course then Budd comes over one day and I tell him to shoot the light and it shatters and falls down....

When we started on the PCP project in 1989 paint was 5 cents a ball wholesale. We figured a more accurate ball would take over the market and at that price, we could make them. By the time we developed the process paint was half that and then they were not any more accurate. We had to go somewhere else so it was police and military.

We make millions of balls a year and you would faint at some of the prices. Its still not a super big business because the reality is there are very few customers for that type of product.

AGD

[Geoff Call]

A round projectile can only be so accurate anyhow, I think you've read your own tech tips Tom

Good to see you active.

Geoff Call
Paintball Charleston

[Army]

Tom, believe me when I state that the Police shoot Pepper balls at MUCH greater speeds

Black, the 303 balls don't need speed to break, as they have a weight of the Bismuth driving through the casing. But again...believe me, the Military fires them a MUCH greater speeds than what AGD tested at