New Angel threads? WTF

[SpitFire1299]

I honestly dont get the point of changing.

[NigelF]

I honestly dont get the point of changing.

for one, theres around an inch and a half of material on the barrels before any threading begins. WDP can shorten their guns if they lessen that. I'm no engineer, or machinst, but I would imagine that finer threads are more stable and less prone to wobble and shifting, and in the absence of that long area before the threads to help stabilize the barrel, a finer threading would make sense.


just thinking out loud.

[Faddy]

They need to switch to cocker threads. It isn't like WDP is making money off an aftermarket barrel for the Angel, so what do they have to loose?

Cocker threads are far from the best out there. Just seems everyone uses them. Hopefully the industry will come up with a standard. I don't hold my breath.

[mobsterboy]

no one ever said they were the best out there, but they are the most common. Think about it, other than spyders, cocker numbers dwarf any other gun out there

[nippinout]

no one ever said they were the best out there, but they are the most common. Think about it, other than spyders, cocker numbers dwarf any other gun out there

They are good enough though. TK wouldn't have put crappy threads on the ULE body. But then again, it's 7075, not some crappy aluminum.

[Faddy]

I guess my point of view is, if the industry is going to agree on a standard, it should be a high standard. Not just because everyone uses it. Sure, cocker threads are by far the most common thread out there, but they leave manufacturers limited with what they can do with it. This is exactly the reason WDP changed their threads. If you can, go look at barrels with old angel threads and autococker threads. They both have a large amount of extra material in front of the threads nearest the breach end of the barrel. This means that any manufacturer who uses the cocker or old angel threads must put atleast that much space in front of breach, but behind the threads. Cutting down that extra material would allow manufacturers to make a shorter marker, using fewer materials, and decreasing the overall weight. (Again, the reason WDP changed the threading on Angels). Also, it just took me 7 and a half full turns to put my Freak on my autococker. I don't have my IR3 handy to tell you how many turns it took to put that barrel on. It seems to me that this could be cut down to 4 or 5 turns without much problem. Although this isn't a huge issue, it's a minor annoyance of mine how many turns it takes to put my barrels on (Please don't meantion twist-lock or M98 threads ). When you're in an industry that is at it's pinnacle, and you're trying to squeeze every last ounce of performance out of your marker, it's these little changes that are going to give an edge. There's really not much more that can be done to an Angel (or any new, high-end gun for that matter) that will make it better.

Now, will WDP get flak for using A-5, or possibly a new proprietary threads (no real confirmation what the thread really is)? You bet. Will they still sell a lot of G7 Flys and 06 Speeds? You bet. Will that change negatively affect their company in the long term? I highly doubt it.

As for TK using cocker threads on the ULE, I would be willing to bet he chose cocker threads because they were the most common thread type out there, not because of a performance issue. Think about it, if he released the ULE and it used some other thread, there'd be dozens of posts and emails to him asking, "Why didn't you use autococker threads?" These are exactly the same comments WDP is getting from people.

[B.A.M.]

Cocker threads are far from the best out there. Just seems everyone uses them. Hopefully the industry will come up with a standard. I don't hold my breath.

My favorite is the twist lock, so easy but its sad to see them go.

[BigEvil]

my cocker barrels seem to wiggle loose alot more than my Angel ones.

[lather]

my cocker barrels seem to wiggle loose alot more than my Angel ones.

Putting an o-ring around your barrel solves any wiggling loose barrels no matter what the threading.

[quik]

My favorite is the twist lock, so easy but its sad to see them go.

It was a great idea, but in the end, too many problems.