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    Automag?
    • Dec 2001
    • 5786

    #16
    Originally posted by billmi
    It will blow out the match.

    The the gun runs on propane from the tank and oxygen from the air - when the propane burns it breaks apart, and recombines with the oxygen, producing water vapor and CO2 as exhaust gasses.

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    • Pacifist_Farmer
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 740

      #17
      Originally posted by billmi
      It will blow out the match.

      The the gun runs on propane from the tank and oxygen from the air - when the propane burns it breaks apart, and recombines with the oxygen, producing water vapor and CO2 as exhaust gasses.

      that makes it sound like the gun actually has a combustion chamber, so maybe the heat is generated not by friction but due to combustion?

      so who tech's this gun for me, my local hardware store?

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      • Muzikman
        Everything AGD
        • Dec 2000
        • 6229

        #18
        Hmm, so Bill, you are saying that it actually burns the propane?

        Interesting.

        Oh, and anyone else find it funny that they have as a "Popular ad-on" a tank selection and not one of them is a propane tank?

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        • VFX_Fenix
          -=Bishop=-
          • Sep 2004
          • 1052

          #19
          From what's been observed from the exploded diagram, the combustion chamber apparently drives a cylinder which in turn provides the driving force for the paintball. From what I can see the combustion chamber is vented and filled through the pump action so burning propane isn't actually exiting the barrel. In short, it works like a convoluted Airsoft gun, instead of a spring driving the plunger which shoots 6mm ball, it's a small ammount of propane which shoots a gelatine capsule filled with goo.

          EDIT - I'm suprised Tippmann didn't try and model it after a SPAS 12 or something similar...
          Last edited by VFX_Fenix; 10-21-2005, 11:16 AM.

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          • nicad
            wannabe newbe
            • May 2002
            • 992

            #20
            I am pretty sure the explosion directly acts on the ball.
            I have derived this conclusion from looking at the diagrams too, as well as from what others have stated.. including Manike: http://www.network54.com/Forum/messa...29743789-hhmmm...
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            • xmetal2001
              Junior Member at heart
              • May 2001
              • 1994

              #21
              Doesn't this make it a firearm, won't this marker be subject to firearm laws and regulations?

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              • warbeak2099
                That is my foot!
                • Jan 2004
                • 4447

                #22
                Hhhmmm, a 4bps backyard fun gun for $230? I mean, that's what it's being marketed as. A marker for backyard/woods players who have to drive 45mins-1hr to get a fill. Way too expensive for that kind of thing though. I know speed doesn't matter as much in woodsball, but 4bps? Why is it so slow?
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                • 93civiccpe
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 572

                  #23
                  4bps is because it is a pump gun, and that's the safest they see it running at right now. The way it works (or at least from what I saw posted on another forum by a supposed Tippman rep) is that the combustion chamber pushes a piston, which pushes forward compressing air which pushes the paintball. It is a very revolutionary idea. There should not be a lot of heat acting on the paintball, as it is just compressing air, but the body of the gun and that piston will get warm. Propane is a clean burning fuel, so when it ignites it does go back to water and air like mentioned above. The only fumes you will probably smell are while connecting a tank or disconnecting a tank. The reason it is set at 4bps is because even while testing and trying to rapid fire the pump gun it would get warm in the testers hands. If this was on semi it was estimated that a pod or two through a halo on automatic or semi would be enough to make the gun too hot to hold without burning yourself. Their current claim is something like 55,000 shots off of a 16oz propane bottle, which is really impressive. For people in remote areas who can't get HPA or CO2 tanks filled easily, this is actually a great solution. I'm not a big tippman fan, but I do applaud the new technology.

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                  • WARPED1
                    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 7458

                    #24
                    Originally posted by warbeak2099
                    but 4bps? Why is it so slow?
                    Um, because it's a pump gun, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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                    • 68magOwner
                      Registered User
                      • May 2003
                      • 3475

                      #25
                      mmm, i kinda want one, seriously, a case of reballs, and a marker that gets 50k shots per fill.......snapshot practice to the max

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                      • warbeak2099
                        That is my foot!
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4447

                        #26
                        Crap, missed that. It being a pump would explain things lol.
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                        • AutomagRT1483
                          AutoWangRT1483
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 2987

                          #27
                          Originally posted by rifleman wi
                          yea.. im goona stay away from anyone with one of those...still dont think using propane in a paintball gun sounds safe..
                          Just wait until the Big Game. I'll lay money on it that there will be atleast 2 or 3 on the field.

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                          • AGDlover
                            And boom goes the dynamite
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3322

                            #28
                            Able to get 50,000 rounds per 16 ounce propane can
                            wow thats damn efficent! more efficent than this excal i got which will get 1000 from my 68/3k( dont worry the excal isnt mine)
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                            • WARPED1
                              I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 7458

                              #29
                              Originally posted by warbeak2099
                              Crap, missed that. It being a pump would explain things lol.
                              We all miss stuff, feces occurs!(everyone break out the thesaurus).
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                              • OneEyedPimp
                                www.fingerinabox.com
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 253

                                #30
                                I picking one up. Im not going to argue with anyone here because most people who are responding are being very closed minded about the whole thing.

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