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  • buzzboy
    Emo grass cuts inself
    • Mar 2005
    • 1322

    #1

    Player postions and gun types

    I am starting to look more at the strategy behind paintball. At my home field with my very small group of paintballers near me we use a lot of spray and pray tactics. This is making me want to become more tactical and rely less on the quantity of paint I shoot but the importance of the shots I make. Before I start anylizing how I play, I want to decide what type of shooter I am. For one I like to have complete overview of the playing field. So I like to stay in the back so I can tell everybody whats going on and help them out. Also I like to stay behind bigger bunkers. Ones that I can get on my knees and not have my head sticking over the top. What kind of player am I?


    My other question.
    What type of guns/gun setups do different types of players use. Mostly I know that front players usually like small, compact guns and don't nessassarly need a higher rof. These are the people that would be seen with drops and warps.

    Then there are back players. The size of these player's guns is usually bigger because there is less need to keep it in close and such. These players will have bigger guns, bigger hoppers, no drop, bigger tanks and usually a higher ROF. What typer of guns would they use.

    What I am looking for kind of is gun setups(forgrip, no forgrip, horiz forgrip), companies, models and drop usage.

    This is all to make me a better player(I hope)
  • craltal
    MCB, baby...
    • Oct 2003
    • 1452

    #2
    Originally posted by buzzboy
    I am starting to look more at the strategy behind paintball. At my home field with my very small group of paintballers near me we use a lot of spray and pray tactics. This is making me want to become more tactical and rely less on the quantity of paint I shoot but the importance of the shots I make. Before I start anylizing how I play, I want to decide what type of shooter I am. For one I like to have complete overview of the playing field. So I like to stay in the back so I can tell everybody whats going on and help them out. Also I like to stay behind bigger bunkers. Ones that I can get on my knees and not have my head sticking over the top. What kind of player am I?


    My other question.
    What type of guns/gun setups do different types of players use. Mostly I know that front players usually like small, compact guns and don't nessassarly need a higher rof. These are the people that would be seen with drops and warps.

    Then there are back players. The size of these player's guns is usually bigger because there is less need to keep it in close and such. These players will have bigger guns, bigger hoppers, no drop, bigger tanks and usually a higher ROF. What typer of guns would they use.

    What I am looking for kind of is gun setups(forgrip, no forgrip, horiz forgrip), companies, models and drop usage.

    This is all to make me a better player(I hope)
    A place to start would be reading the position articles (as well as some of the others) here:



    They definitely take a slant towards woodsball and the gear they sell.

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    • Lohman446
      Useful posts: 7
      • Jun 2003
      • 9315

      #3
      With the exception of a few flag grab situations where a pistol would be ideal I do not see many cases where gun type matters much towards position. In that the small / compact markers still have all the attributes of the "large" markers.

      Aside from efficiency there is very little difference in marker performance today once you are into mid / high end
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      • buzzboy
        Emo grass cuts inself
        • Mar 2005
        • 1322

        #4
        Does anybody have anymore sites with articles about tactics on the speedball field.

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        • phantomhitman
          ao's official bad guy
          • Oct 2003
          • 1841

          #5
          The tactics in speedball are about angles. You have to decide who goes were and what angle you have covered by who. Since speedball is small and fast you need to cover lanes and get a better position than your opponents. You need to walk the field, look at every bunkers, and try to figure out where the other guys are going.

          *edit because i cant spell
          Last edited by phantomhitman; 11-02-2005, 06:02 AM.
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          • minimag03
            WVU paintball #19
            • Dec 2003
            • 2214

            #6
            Originally posted by phantomhitman
            The tactics in speedball are about angles.
            Exactly.

            In my mind the are two real different types of players in speedball.

            1) Back players - they throw paint; they aren't there to shooting people out but just to keep the other team from moving to get angles on your team

            2) front players - they move to get angles ont he other team and shoot them out

            When I say angles I mean get to a point on the field were you don't really have to "aim" because A) they are so close you can't miss them or B) they are standing out in the open (from youre view point
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            • buzzboy
              Emo grass cuts inself
              • Mar 2005
              • 1322

              #7
              Well, here it is. This is my field. All the bunkers are about waist to chest high. Can any body who knows about this sort of thing help me with movement around my field. I am a n00b when it comes to this stuff so all help would make me happy. Just so I can be a better player and use less paint.

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              • JRingold
                Big Fat Guy
                • Apr 2002
                • 772

                #8
                Originally posted by phantomhitman
                The tactics in speedball are about angels.
                So all players need to shoot angels, got it. But do I have to sell my X-Mag then?

                I went like this :shooting:
                He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                Now he shoots a Mag too...

                -JR

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                • minimag03
                  WVU paintball #19
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2214

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JRingold
                  So all players need to shoot angels, got it. But do I have to sell my X-Mag then?

                  You know what he meant, don't flame
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                  • JRingold
                    Big Fat Guy
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 772

                    #10
                    Originally posted by minimag03
                    You know what he meant, don't flame
                    Yes yes, I do it all the time. Not just goofing.
                    I went like this :shooting:
                    He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                    Now he shoots a Mag too...

                    -JR

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                    • yingyang
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 664

                      #11
                      Well a shocker can be used for multiple positions, Dms, Angels, Intimidators, Shockers, Nerves, even ions can be used for any player. Since you sound like a back player and like to stay near the back and call out positions for people and shut down the alleys with paint.

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                      • buzzboy
                        Emo grass cuts inself
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 1322

                        #12
                        Yes thats me but I want to change. I want to become less of a paint waster and more of a target hitter/teammate helper.

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                        • Lohman446
                          Useful posts: 7
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 9315

                          #13
                          Originally posted by buzzboy

                          In that case I break someone to the left back can (from the bottom side), someone to the right back, and someone to the middl. The person in the back left is responsible to keep there back right from moving up the tape, and to help the middle guy bump over and up the cans to the fifty and beyond. The back right player needs to move himself, with minimal help, up into that 50 T-bunker.
                          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                          • stop whining buy a mag
                            I know what I'm doing!
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 414

                            #14
                            Back-Big communicators, lane off the break, allow mid/front guys to move to secondary bunkers, etc

                            Mid-Mostly fill in guys that can be closer voices for your front guys. Also, if a back man gets hit, he can try to fill this spot. Same goes if a front player is eliminated. Basically these are your versatile guys. They should be at least profficient at most aspects of the game (laning, snapshooting, running and gunning, etc). Sometimes these guys do a little shooting off the break to give the front guy a little more time especially if he is pushing close to the 50.

                            Front-Small and fast. You can be a front guy even if your big, but you have to know how to keep yourself tucked in. They should be most profficient at snapshooting but also have all the other basics down.

                            The biggest thing is shooting with both hands IMO. If all your teammates can shoot with both hands then you should be pretty well off.

                            Gun choices are debatable. All the pro teams have to use the same gun (if they have that kind of sponsorship) but they try to adapt the rest of their equipment. Using an Egg instead of a Halo or having a 45/45 tank instead of a 68/45 is one way. But for your average team, Shockers work well up front. My brother plays with his Shocker, Halo, and Stubby Crossfire tank on a rail and can fit into those bunkers. I guess being 4' 10" also helps. I've been using my DM4, Halo, 68/45 on a rail and I can play front but it just isn't my style. I'm one of t3h aGG kiddies that are against drops. I used to love them but in speedball it is a lot easier to switch hands and aim when you have a slightly longer and not so tall set up.

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                            • Teamslayer76
                              I want my Sig back
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 480

                              #15
                              Back Player
                              Something that shoots fast and is prefriable to the shooter/player.
                              Tank size- 88ci-144ci 4500psi is a must for all!
                              AGD-Emags/Xmags
                              Dye-Dm3/4/5/6/C ; Angel ; Ultralight
                              WDP-Any
                              Worr- Any Ebladed or Select Fire
                              Shocktech-Any electronic marker
                              Smartparts- Nerve, Impulse, Shocker any, Ion
                              Basically if it shoots above 15bps or has ramping its backman speedball material.

                              Mid Player
                              Something semi-light less than 3lbs unless your a wuss, or really really lazy and can shoot decently fast and accuratly. Tank Size 68ci-88ci 4.5kpsi for all.
                              Anything good like above would work.

                              Front Player
                              Always light under 2.5 lbs.
                              This narrows down more. The guns will most likely be made from Alluminium.
                              Shockers
                              Nerve
                              Dm5/6/C
                              AKA markers milled.

                              ....


                              Remember all of this is off the top of my head. It's all my opinion. It defintly has spelling and gramar errors. It's not complete. So don't whine. Thanks.
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