Are the barrel kits worth it?

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  • yakitori

    #16
    I personally like kits for the efficiency. W/ a smaller barrel and a larger bore paint, you will be shooting slower and have to turn up the velocity to compensate.

    If you have the money, I say why not. I see improved accuracy over actually matching my paint to my bore size. Accuracy is determined by paint/barrel match and paint quality.

    If you dont have a lot of money, then just get a CP 2 piece w/ two backs. A .687 and a .691, and youll be fine. If you use just one barrel, then .689 is fine.

    And freaks arent that great either. As other say, there are better kits.

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    • installer020
      Hail to the king, Baby!
      • Oct 2005
      • 1008

      #17
      Barrel kits

      I have used a number of different one piece barrels and am now using an Evil Pipe Kit. I love my Pipe Kit, but don't know if it is worth the money new. I got mine used for 100$, which is what I paid for my last ultralight. I mainly use the .689 back. If you can get one reasonable, do it and decide for yourself. If you don't like it do what the other guy said and sell it.
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      • BD_Paintball
        UW-Whitewater Paintball
        • May 2003
        • 2268

        #18
        if you play alot at different places or play alot of tourneys then yes it is worth it. in tourney ball you will shoot alot of different paint with different bore sizes. well worth the money for a kit.
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        • ultralight
          Tool Weilding Ape
          • Feb 2005
          • 770

          #19
          i traded an intelliframe for my pipe and i love it. sure i only use two of the backs regularly but then again, i only ever shoot one brand of paint. it is nice to know that i can shoot field paint anywhere without a big problem though.

          so i suppose if you plan on playing at several different fields tht are fpo then a system my be a good idea. but if you have one home field or one favorite brand of paint then you should just figure out it's size and buy a barrel accordingly.

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          • MisterBones25
            ROCK ON!!!
            • Oct 2004
            • 321

            #20
            i have an empire kit for my imp, its not bad for the money. i found it a big step over one barrel because my local feilds were always switching paints, i'v had to use every back i have atleast once. on my mag i shoot all 3 sizes of the cp one piece. i hate those days where you get too small of a paint or too large of a paint for the barrle you have, you cant hit anything. i like the variety.

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            • rkjunior303
              I need this more than you
              • May 2003
              • 4029

              #21
              I keep a .688 and a .692 Ultralight back in my bag.... Depending on Paint match, I try to get the closest to it.. Usually it's the .688... If I know the paint is going to be crappy or the weather is suspect, I sacrifice the efficiency and go to the .692 to account for swell.

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              • Lohman446
                Useful posts: 7
                • Jun 2003
                • 9315

                #22
                I have used stainless freaks, empire kits, phat kits, and pipe kits. I have tried about every barrel out there at some point I think. Last year I sold a lot of my equipment (though I still have some various barrels laying around). I have never tried a barrel other than stock on my Proto - nor do I carry anything else with me to play.
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                • FSU_Paintball
                  (well, not any longer)
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 618

                  #23
                  I'd get the cheaper Empire kit... they shoot great, you get different bore sizes and it's the same price as one nice barrel. Aside from that, unless you've got a cocker a .692 ultralite will shoot anything.
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                  • GT
                    Automag?
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 5786

                    #24
                    Originally posted by slateman
                    Are the barrel kits worth it?

                    no
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                    • thefuzz
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 90

                      #25
                      You can pick up a used kit for cheap on E-Bay or a b/s/t forum. I've owned a freak for years and that's only because I use it on my Phantom (Frantom-II), Cocker, and Mag. I picked mine up used for the price a new Boomstick, so they're not all that expensive. The freak isn't as good as some of the other system's mentioned, but it works fine for me.

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                      • UTDragun
                        Tennessee Paintvols
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 1052

                        #26
                        I have one for my karni and absolutely love it
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                        • Baby Huey
                          Only Christ Can Save
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 255

                          #27
                          If you play at different fields and in different conditions you will need a kit. I have used the SS freak for about a 1 1/2 years with no problems. The nice thing is once you have the kit (with some tips) if you buy another type of gun all you need to do is buy a back and you have an entire kit for that gun as well. Good luck and God Bless.

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                          • Pha|anx
                            PB United / Euro Freelance
                            • May 2005
                            • 1073

                            #28
                            Originally posted by yingyang
                            If you got a phantom like me, its a must because the detent kit is a lousy system.
                            Phantom barrels suck--- At least mine does. Besides Lapco and CCM, does anyone make decent Phantom barrels?
                            Originally posted by yingyang
                            Usally when I use an open bolt semi I use 3 barrels, one for small bore, medium and large bore. They dont have to fit perfectly to get prefect accuracy.
                            Agreed, currently I have .689 16" CP and a .691 12" Excel. Going to pick up somehing around .684 - .686 just in case.
                            Originally posted by slateman
                            EDIT - What about the "Pipe kit"? Empire's kit?
                            Pipes are one of the louder kits around, if that matters to you, and aren't exactly built like a tank. The later also applys to Empire multipiece kits.
                            Originally posted by Beemer
                            But why do like em soooooo Loooong?
                            Bunker maniplulation.





                            Things to be warry of...
                            #1 Quality of the bore honing.
                            #2 Bore type. Single or stepped. Also if it's stepped you will have two bore sizes, the smaller of these should be at least 5-6'' of the barrel length.
                            #3 Durability of the barrell. Especially if we are talking someone playing front.
                            #4 Weight and balence. Some care-- Some don't-- I don't... Not yet.

                            Speaking from experience.
                            Last edited by Pha|anx; 11-14-2005, 04:36 PM.

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                            • 68magOwner
                              Registered User
                              • May 2003
                              • 3475

                              #29
                              i didnt use a barrel kit, up untill, about a year ago. I snagged one of the new edge kits (the ones that actually look decent, with the new tips) for $70, 4 bores, 1 tip. I would definatley say it was worth it. Now, is it going to make a MAJOR difference than if you just had one large bore barrel? no, not really, but, for the price i got mine at, it has certianly come in handy. Have actually noteced different shot groupings using different sized backs with the same paint (so, makes a difference if you have it sized up right). But, im shure i could fair ok without it as well, just nice to have.

                              summary- Its a nice thing to have, but, i wouldnt make it a major priority if you need other equipment first.

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                              • bentothejam1n
                                Support our troops
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 1428

                                #30
                                Phantom barrels suck--- At least mine does. Besides Lapco and CCM, does anyone make decent Phantom barrels?
                                I've heard that J & J make decent barrels. I think they have a kit that fits a phantom without messing with hte hole in the pump. Does the phantom have cocker threads??? I've never really checked

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