A case of paint

[Torbo]

it costs a field $20-35 for a case of paint, depending on the quality. how much was the markup, im not sure.

it seems to be around 35 for field/practice paint.

[phantomhitman]

what exactly are you referring to "most markups" in the paintball industry or retail in general?

retail in general

[slateman]

I was told by the guys at the local shop that for high quality stuff, they generally don't make a whole lot. but for some of the lesser quality (specifically "White Ball), they almost double it.

[Rick-USA]

i have always wanted to know this also. I do not care about the shipping-employees-facilties-gas-etc. that is added in to actually help teh company make money, I just want to see the raw data. A case of chronic 420 costs around $60-65, if you know what the wholesale is, or the original manufaturer price, let em know. Most markups are around the %200-300 range on any products for retail sale.

You can't not care about the things you listed. The ONLY thing that isn't a cost of making a case of paint is the shipping. The employees have to be there to run the machines. The facilities have to be there to house the machine and keep it running. The gas/electricity/etc are all required to make that case of paint. If all you want are the cost of the shell and fill then you aren't adding up all the cost to make a case. Those cost would be low. But by the time you add in all the "extra" things you don't want to count it raises the cost.

Paint makers are making a profit or they wouldn't be making paint. I don't think they are making the level of profit the oil companies are but they are entitled to make a profit. Just as we are all entitled to not buy from a company we think charges too much for a product.

[nicad]

(sorry to hijack the thread-- itll only be a second)

Rick-- you are the Rick from PBUSA, right?

If so I have been trying to get ahold of you about the upcoming TX Throwdown.
Please shoot me an email colin |at| deadlywind (dot com).

thanks- Colin

(/hijack)

[phantomhitman]

You can't not care about the things you listed. The ONLY thing that isn't a cost of making a case of paint is the shipping. The employees have to be there to run the machines. The facilities have to be there to house the machine and keep it running. The gas/electricity/etc are all required to make that case of paint. If all you want are the cost of the shell and fill then you aren't adding up all the cost to make a case. Those cost would be low. But by the time you add in all the "extra" things you don't want to count it raises the cost.

Paint makers are making a profit or they wouldn't be making paint. I don't think they are making the level of profit the oil companies are but they are entitled to make a profit. Just as we are all entitled to not buy from a company we think charges too much for a product.

look, i understand how it works and why. i have taken all of the classes and know the ins and outs. i only said i dont care because i just want the raw data. I KNOW WHY PAINT COSTS THAT MUCH, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THEIR COST TO MAKE IT. I am not complaining about prices or *****ing at companies, I just want to know how big off a markup there is. calm down, take a break, when you have my answer quote me again.

[Lohman446]

Phantom, you seem to have added a zero to your mark-up percentages in general retail - etiher that or I need to explore new businesses

[Lohman446]

Well, the only thing important in cost is the material goods, and the value of the material goods. Because in a collective society that functions for societies greater goods the only value of electricity adn consumables is the value of the resources that go into them. Only, in a happy society, where everyone's labor is equal to the greater benefit can one be truly happy. As such things like opportunity cost, overhead, wages, profit, and other capitilistic evils must not be counted, a product is only worth the value of its base material.

/Yes comrade, its true its true
//

[paullus99]

Well, standard mark up from the manufacturer (from their cost, including transport) is ususally 30% - 100%. So if a retailer purchases the paint at $35.00 per case from the manufacturer, it should cost anywhere from $17.50 - 28.00 per case to make.

That is complete conjecture on my part - but I would bet that its probably pretty close to reality.

[Lohman446]

Well, standard mark up from the manufacturer (from their cost, including transport) is ususally 30% - 100%. So if a retailer purchases the paint at $35.00 per case from the manufacturer, it should cost anywhere from $17.50 - 28.00 per case to make.

That is complete conjecture on my part - but I would bet that its probably pretty close to reality.

The standard mark-up in general retail is between 20 and 40% for "walk-out" items, that is items that a take no extra labor from the retailer for the customer to use. Mark-up on skill installed items by the retailer (think house heating systems, auto parts, etc) is generally higher.

[phantomhitman]

my markup is from the original creator of a product to teh retail stores. It applies to clothes or food. I know for a fact restaraunts markup their food around %200 because the cost of the food is usually under $10 (for a $50). They do not make as much on some items (mainly meat) but on others the consumer gets the shaft. My roomate used to work for a big name clothing company and their cost per shirt was under $2, while they would charge anywhere from $20 to $50 for that same shirt. Cds and dvs cost less 50 cent to make but you pay $20 a least for them. I know why they charge that much, they have to make money as well as cover all of their costs. Markups are more than people think.

edit-I am not talking about what a store gets it for and then marks it up for retail (That percentage is much much lower). I am talking about what the manufacturer sells it for and then what the price ends up being in a store.

[shartley]

my markup is from the original creator of a product to teh retail stores. It applies to clothes or food. I know for a fact restaraunts markup their food around %200 because the cost of the food is usually under $10 (for a $50). They do not make as much on some items (mainly meat) but on others the consumer gets the shaft. My roomate used to work for a big name clothing company and their cost per shirt was under $2, while they would charge anywhere from $20 to $50 for that same shirt. Cds and dvs cost less 50 cent to make but you pay $20 a least for them. I know why they charge that much, they have to make money as well as cover all of their costs. Markups are more than people think.

I know why they charge that much, they have to make money as well as cover all of their costs. Markups are more than people think.

[Lohman446]

my markup is from the original creator of a product to teh retail stores. It applies to clothes or food. I know for a fact restaraunts markup their food around %200 because the cost of the food is usually under $10 (for a $50). They do not make as much on some items (mainly meat) but on others the consumer gets the shaft. My roomate used to work for a big name clothing company and their cost per shirt was under $2, while they would charge anywhere from $20 to $50 for that same shirt. Cds and dvs cost less 50 cent to make but you pay $20 a least for them. I know why they charge that much, they have to make money as well as cover all of their costs. Markups are more than people think.

edit-I am not talking about what a store gets it for and then marks it up for retail (That percentage is much much lower). I am talking about what the manufacturer sells it for and then what the price ends up being in a store.

I don't understand your point. Your comparing material costs to manufacture without considering labor or anything else, and then noting that mark-up is high. Any number can be skewed if one tries, and it seems like you are going out of your way to skew the mark-up numbers.

[slade]

it seems to be around 35 for field/practice paint.

my field buys paint by the skid at about $25 for practice paint (stingers) and $35 for PMI premium... maybe a little less than that.

[phantomhitman]

lohman, i am not complaining about anything. i just want to know what the cost is to make a case of paint. i am not arguing about anything, or saying this or that about price markups. i am just trying to figure out how much a case costs a manufacturer to make. what canyou not understand about that, I KNOW WHY THE FINAL PRICE IS HIGH i just want to know HOW MUCH IT COSTS THEM TO MAKE.