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  • Bonx0007
    AO SOCAL OG
    • Sep 2001
    • 1388

    #16
    nicely done sir.

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    • bleachit
      Conturbo et Ledo
      • May 2003
      • 1410

      #17
      Originally posted by Skoad
      I don't understand what exactly a lighter bolt would do in a mag. You would have to have the same strength spring just to recock the bolt at a fast speed, so you would also need the same amount of air to compress the spring...since its the same spring.

      Am I missing something? Rogue, please splain
      lighter bolt = lighter spring, less air to push bolt/spring


      less moving mass = less recoil, softer on paint. and looking at the pictures of the 3 different bolts, the front design looks like it may be easier as it cups the paint as opposed to the stock bolt... and possibly better air efficiency..


      but who knows...

      I guess only rogue..

      *considers not selling ss cf classic mag
      "Great stories! See everyone, just buy a Sydarm and become a paintball superstar!! "
      AGD

      "i just sent out the full force of the canadian army (4 guys). expect high canadian casualties"
      Blackweenie

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      • SpecialBlend2786
        Registered User
        • Jun 2003
        • 4023

        #18
        Originally posted by Skoad
        I don't understand what exactly a lighter bolt would do in a mag. You would have to have the same strength spring just to recock the bolt at a fast speed, so you would also need the same amount of air to compress the spring...since its the same spring.

        Am I missing something? Rogue, please splain
        with a lighter bolt there is less mass that the spring needs to return, so it doesn't really need to be as strong as if the bolt were heavier. not sure if that made sense...of if its correct.

        Also means that there is less mass slamming into the bumper which should mean less kick(?)

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        • Skoad
          Registered User
          • Feb 2002
          • 3265

          #19
          yes. i understand the lighter something is, the less force it takes to move it. I guess i'm skeptical on the advantage of the weight difference....would like to see results is what I'm saying.

          If this is just a straight aluminum bolt, why didn't tk do it long ago?

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          • SpecialBlend2786
            Registered User
            • Jun 2003
            • 4023

            #20
            Originally posted by Skoad
            yes. i understand the lighter something is, the less force it takes to move it. I guess i'm skeptical on the advantage of the weight difference....would like to see results is what I'm saying.

            If this is just a straight aluminum bolt, why didn't tk do it long ago?
            yeah, i'm not too sure about the actual advantage either. i'll wait and see i guess.

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            • bleachit
              Conturbo et Ledo
              • May 2003
              • 1410

              #21
              Originally posted by Skoad

              If this is just a straight aluminum bolt, why didn't tk do it long ago?

              Im not so sure its a straight aluminum bolt... maybe its got a nice lil surprise on the inside... or not
              "Great stories! See everyone, just buy a Sydarm and become a paintball superstar!! "
              AGD

              "i just sent out the full force of the canadian army (4 guys). expect high canadian casualties"
              Blackweenie

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              • Raven001
                Registered User
                • Apr 2004
                • 314

                #22
                There was a company that made a titanium bolt back in 96/97 that weighed next to nothing and promised increased rate of fire. It did make it possible to shoot faster but the damned thing would wear out really fast. If I remember correctly it was some German company that also came out with the aluminium spacers for the power tube.

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                • hardr0ck68
                  I miss Tom
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 783

                  #23
                  Ok, so lighter bolt means (with stock setup) faster bolt speed, yay great more BPS; however it also means a much higher liklyhood of cracking the next ball in the feed stack. The only ttests i have heard about being done on ball breakage were by ADG for the LX project; so unless you have something new and repeatable to test all i see is flawed theory.

                  Ohhh but eyes, i never chop with eyes, they are a godsend; yeah we all know thats a smoking pile of poo. m Even the best eyes on the market chop, but the kiddies that drop them in or pay the cash for them dont want to admit they did. Any marker with the feed stack set up improperly will break paint regardless of eyes, and of course their are other factors.

                  So in the end, i think you dropped the ball here unless your solution is something better engineered than eyes i think this product is just about as useless as can be. But hey prove me wrong, i will be amused!

                  (and as we both know, usel;ess doesnt mean it wont sell, i mean look at all the goofy body rails out there....)
                  Tom was the last of a now extinct breed, a breed of players who build a community, a breed of owners who gave to the sport never taking more than what they deserved. I hope to see you at the feild again some day....

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                  • MarkM
                    UK Cougars
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2433

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Raven001
                    There was a company that made a titanium bolt back in 96/97 that weighed next to nothing and promised increased rate of fire. It did make it possible to shoot faster but the damned thing would wear out really fast. If I remember correctly it was some German company that also came out with the aluminium spacers for the power tube.
                    The Company was Toxic Toys, the bolt was made from Titanium with a plastic venturi insert and a small foam dot in the middle (which needed to be trimmed in half ), it was however made from two pieces of metal, the sear catching on the shelf/back part of the bolt. It cycled very quickly but due to the two part construction it fell apart. Also yes they made the spacer rings several years before AGD went down that route...these actually worked and they were colour coded to speed up the swapping out. They also did a version of the FFV (which was an aftermarket on/off valve originally created by John Bonich (Quantum Products)...which was first, FFV or The Toxic Toys one is a little unclear since they appeared around the same time. The Q-Tip by QP was about a year later. Toxic Toys also sold a Venom High line for the mag which Doc also started to make around the same time. I have no idea what happened to the company if they just stopped or went to another avenue of sales.

                    *edit* I guess they gave up http://www.venom.paintball.de/flash/index.html look at the last updated date
                    Mark UK Cougars


                    UK Cougars
                    Sterling Owners Group. Member #39

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                    • Carbon Blue
                      Registered User

                      • Apr 2003
                      • 1103

                      #25
                      i cant wait to find out some actual stats on this thing
                      :headbang: AGD :headbang:

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                      • Chronobreak
                        Rec Poster
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5055

                        #26
                        the only purpose i can think of is soem type of e-mag bolt where people dotn want lvl7 and they dont want lvlx since its too much tuning

                        but nice to see something in the works, and hope to see it fulfill all its promises(so far weight )

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                        • Skoad
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 3265

                          #27
                          I despise level 10.

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                          • UTDragun
                            Tennessee Paintvols
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 1052

                            #28
                            I would guess the bolt would be made out of some aluminum/scandium alloy
                            embargo backwards = o grab me

                            "Guns dont kill people, husbands that come home early do." -Larry The Cable Guy

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                            • GT
                              Automag?
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 5786

                              #29
                              very cool.
                              FOR SALE
                              on/off, sear, PROConnect
                              AGD back bottle asa, laser logo

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                              • peewee
                                AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 1400

                                #30
                                palms are sweaty now..... Thanks!!! Is the base where the sear catches aluminum or steel??
                                :hail: AGD :hail: CCI :hail:

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