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  • slateman
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 1346

    #1

    What happened to levels 8 & 9??

    Ok, so I'm thinking . . . hmmm . . . started with a level 7 bolt . . .. now I've got a level 10.

    Where's 8&9? Anyone?
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  • nato
    Dont Go Dying On Me AGD
    • Sep 2002
    • 1337

    #2
    AGD stated that the LVL10 was such a HUGE break through that they HAD to bump it automatically to 10! :) I personally agree.

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    • anomoly40
      Giblet. Thats a funny word
      • Sep 2005
      • 287

      #3
      Not as big of a jump as the RT to the X valve. I guess W isn't animal enough is it? Imagine this setup, "I got a ULE mag, ULT, RPG Chimera, DYE boomstick. But my best investment has got to be the Dub-ya Valve." That might have made the mag a hit with todays "gansta ballers". HMMM

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      • BigEvil
        www.BigEvilOnline.com

        • Feb 2005
        • 9333

        #4
        Originally posted by slateman
        Ok, so I'm thinking . . . hmmm . . . started with a level 7 bolt . . .. now I've got a level 10.

        Where's 8&9? Anyone?

        Actually, I think that it started way back at lvl5. The breech and barrel were seperate. Check out the original mag tech video.

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        • KayleAGD
          Master tech.
          • Nov 2000
          • 582

          #5
          That's like asking what happened to Preperation A-G ???????
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          "I just bought it"
          "It came that way"
          "I borrowed it "
          I HAVE HEARD THEM ALL, SO BE ORIGINAL !!!

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          • slateman
            Registered User
            • Oct 2001
            • 1346

            #6
            Originally posted by BigEvil
            Actually, I think that it started way back at lvl5. The breech and barrel were seperate. Check out the original mag tech video.
            Ok, fine. What happened to levels 1-4 then!!

            Originally posted by KayleAGD
            That's like asking what happened to Preperation A-G ???????
            Whaaaa?
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            • SpecialBlend2786
              Registered User
              • Jun 2003
              • 4023

              #7
              Originally posted by KayleAGD
              That's like asking what happened to Preperation A-G ???????

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              • slade
                Carpe Noctem
                • Apr 2004
                • 3442

                #8
                Originally posted by slateman
                Ok, fine. What happened to levels 1-4 then!!
                someone had a list of all the different bolts ever made chronologically, their names and the differences/advancements. i think 1-4 were prototypes, 5 was released, more prototypes, level 7 that everyone knows and was released for a while, and then they 1) thought lvl10 was such a big jump it deserved to skip a few numbers, and 2) i think they just thought lvl10 sounded better. there were some other bolts/valves mixed in, like a rental valve/bolt, and i think some bolts in between numbers.

                if anyone has that list hanging around, post it up.
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                • Pump Scout
                  Aging gracefully
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 141

                  #9
                  I thought someone had said that 8 was the RT, and 9 was the E/X system. That's hearsay, though, not gospel or stone carvings seen at AGD's office. I seem to recall that 1 was the original AGD gun, the blowback Panther(?). 1-4 never made it out of the prototype form, that's for sure.
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                  • personman

                    #10
                    Duh, everyone knows that level 7 ate nine.

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                    • SpitFire1299
                      :P
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1765

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pump Scout
                      I thought someone had said that 8 was the RT, and 9 was the E/X system. That's hearsay, though, not gospel or stone carvings seen at AGD's office. I seem to recall that 1 was the original AGD gun, the blowback Panther(?). 1-4 never made it out of the prototype form, that's for sure.
                      The panther was a line of guns in ICD.

                      Level 7 is in the RT(unless changed to level 10)
                      Level 10 is in the e/x valves.

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                      • onedude36
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 943

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SpitFire1299
                        The panther was a line of guns in ICD.

                        Level 7 is in the RT(unless changed to level 10)
                        Level 10 is in the e/x valves.
                        no hes right, AGD did make a marker called the panther waaay back.

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                        • ClassicMagger
                          What's the fuss about?
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1834

                          #13
                          Hey:

                          Here is a list of all the Automag Level Bolt Systems that have been released by AGD to date:

                          Level 1:

                          Power tube polished and measured .385 x .600
                          Power tube spring full ground both sides .285 free length
                          Power tube insert turned for urethane o-ring and spring
                          On/off top turned for air flow
                          On/off pin ground and checked
                          Bolt trimmed to .275 deep to power piston
                          Ream inside regulator body for washer clearance
                          Jumbo nubbins

                          Level 2 09/21/90:

                          High strength front frame screw
                          Trim regulator valve for minimum clearance

                          Level 3 11/15/90:

                          Bronze power tube spring
                          Black spring pack
                          New twistlock and o-ringed barrel
                          Slotted power tube insert

                          Level 4 12/05/90:

                          Teflon o-ring for on/off valve
                          Washer for power tube

                          Level 5 01/01/91:

                          Rear nubbin ball drop

                          Level 5.1 02/11/91:

                          Milled frame to allow .750 pin

                          Level 5.2 04/09/91:

                          Extended, drilled power tube tip
                          Small ID power tube

                          Level 6.0 05/18/91:

                          Drop in sear
                          One piece barrel
                          Square spring
                          Wire nubbin
                          Large air chamber
                          Power Feed
                          Crown Point barrel

                          Level 6.5 08/21/91:

                          Extended power piston
                          Countersinked power tube tip

                          Level 6.6 11/11/91:

                          Computer designed power tube tip

                          Level 7.0 04/01/92:

                          Expanded air chamber with soldered on power tube tip

                          Originally posted by AGD
                          There was no level 8 or 9. John Sosta in England drilled holes in the regulator and some people called that Level 8 but it never was. We decided on L10 because it wouldnt be confused with the previous rumors, marketing you know.
                          Hope, that helps.

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                          • Teamslayer76
                            I want my Sig back
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 480

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ClassicMagger
                            Hey:

                            Here is a list of all the Automag Level Bolt Systems that have been released by AGD to date:

                            Level 1:

                            Power tube polished and measured .385 x .600
                            Power tube spring full ground both sides .285 free length
                            Power tube insert turned for urethane o-ring and spring
                            On/off top turned for air flow
                            On/off pin ground and checked
                            Bolt trimmed to .275 deep to power piston
                            Ream inside regulator body for washer clearance
                            Jumbo nubbins

                            Level 2 09/21/90:

                            High strength front frame screw
                            Trim regulator valve for minimum clearance

                            Level 3 11/15/90:

                            Bronze power tube spring
                            Black spring pack
                            New twistlock and o-ringed barrel
                            Slotted power tube insert

                            Level 4 12/05/90:

                            Teflon o-ring for on/off valve
                            Washer for power tube

                            Level 5 01/01/91:

                            Rear nubbin ball drop

                            Level 5.1 02/11/91:

                            Milled frame to allow .750 pin

                            Level 5.2 04/09/91:

                            Extended, drilled power tube tip
                            Small ID power tube

                            Level 6.0 05/18/91:

                            Drop in sear
                            One piece barrel
                            Square spring
                            Wire nubbin
                            Large air chamber
                            Power Feed
                            Crown Point barrel

                            Level 6.5 08/21/91:

                            Extended power piston
                            Countersinked power tube tip

                            Level 6.6 11/11/91:

                            Computer designed power tube tip

                            Level 7.0 04/01/92:

                            Expanded air chamber with soldered on power tube tip



                            Hope, that helps.

                            -ClassicMagger
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                            • paint magnet
                              Member # 10,261
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 2488

                              #15
                              What are the Classic RT and Emag/Retro valves called then?
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