What happened to levels 8 & 9??

[slateman]

Ok, so I'm thinking . . . hmmm . . . started with a level 7 bolt . . .. now I've got a level 10.

Where's 8&9? Anyone?

[nato]

AGD stated that the LVL10 was such a HUGE break through that they HAD to bump it automatically to 10! :) I personally agree.

Nate

[anomoly40]

Not as big of a jump as the RT to the X valve. I guess W isn't animal enough is it? Imagine this setup, "I got a ULE mag, ULT, RPG Chimera, DYE boomstick. But my best investment has got to be the Dub-ya Valve." That might have made the mag a hit with todays "gansta ballers". HMMM

[BigEvil]

Ok, so I'm thinking . . . hmmm . . . started with a level 7 bolt . . .. now I've got a level 10.

Where's 8&9? Anyone?

Actually, I think that it started way back at lvl5. The breech and barrel were seperate. Check out the original mag tech video.

[KayleAGD]

That's like asking what happened to Preperation A-G ???????

[slateman]

Actually, I think that it started way back at lvl5. The breech and barrel were seperate. Check out the original mag tech video.

Ok, fine. What happened to levels 1-4 then!!

That's like asking what happened to Preperation A-G ???????

Whaaaa?

[SpecialBlend2786]

That's like asking what happened to Preperation A-G ???????

[slade]

Ok, fine. What happened to levels 1-4 then!!

someone had a list of all the different bolts ever made chronologically, their names and the differences/advancements. i think 1-4 were prototypes, 5 was released, more prototypes, level 7 that everyone knows and was released for a while, and then they 1) thought lvl10 was such a big jump it deserved to skip a few numbers, and 2) i think they just thought lvl10 sounded better. there were some other bolts/valves mixed in, like a rental valve/bolt, and i think some bolts in between numbers.

if anyone has that list hanging around, post it up.

[Pump Scout]

I thought someone had said that 8 was the RT, and 9 was the E/X system. That's hearsay, though, not gospel or stone carvings seen at AGD's office. I seem to recall that 1 was the original AGD gun, the blowback Panther(?). 1-4 never made it out of the prototype form, that's for sure.

[personman]

Duh, everyone knows that level 7 ate nine.

[SpitFire1299]

I thought someone had said that 8 was the RT, and 9 was the E/X system. That's hearsay, though, not gospel or stone carvings seen at AGD's office. I seem to recall that 1 was the original AGD gun, the blowback Panther(?). 1-4 never made it out of the prototype form, that's for sure.

The panther was a line of guns in ICD.

Level 7 is in the RT(unless changed to level 10)
Level 10 is in the e/x valves.

[onedude36]

The panther was a line of guns in ICD.

Level 7 is in the RT(unless changed to level 10)
Level 10 is in the e/x valves.

no hes right, AGD did make a marker called the panther waaay back.

EDIT: you shiped my predator right? sweetums

[ClassicMagger]

Hey:

Here is a list of all the Automag Level Bolt Systems that have been released by AGD to date:

Level 1:

Power tube polished and measured .385 x .600
Power tube spring full ground both sides .285 free length
Power tube insert turned for urethane o-ring and spring
On/off top turned for air flow
On/off pin ground and checked
Bolt trimmed to .275 deep to power piston
Ream inside regulator body for washer clearance
Jumbo nubbins

Level 2 09/21/90:

High strength front frame screw
Trim regulator valve for minimum clearance

Level 3 11/15/90:

Bronze power tube spring
Black spring pack
New twistlock and o-ringed barrel
Slotted power tube insert

Level 4 12/05/90:

Teflon o-ring for on/off valve
Washer for power tube

Level 5 01/01/91:

Rear nubbin ball drop

Level 5.1 02/11/91:

Milled frame to allow .750 pin

Level 5.2 04/09/91:

Extended, drilled power tube tip
Small ID power tube

Level 6.0 05/18/91:

Drop in sear
One piece barrel
Square spring
Wire nubbin
Large air chamber
Power Feed
Crown Point barrel

Level 6.5 08/21/91:

Extended power piston
Countersinked power tube tip

Level 6.6 11/11/91:

Computer designed power tube tip

Level 7.0 04/01/92:

Expanded air chamber with soldered on power tube tip

There was no level 8 or 9. John Sosta in England drilled holes in the regulator and some people called that Level 8 but it never was. We decided on L10 because it wouldnt be confused with the previous rumors, marketing you know.

Hope, that helps.

-ClassicMagger

[Teamslayer76]

Hey:

Here is a list of all the Automag Level Bolt Systems that have been released by AGD to date:

Level 1:

Power tube polished and measured .385 x .600
Power tube spring full ground both sides .285 free length
Power tube insert turned for urethane o-ring and spring
On/off top turned for air flow
On/off pin ground and checked
Bolt trimmed to .275 deep to power piston
Ream inside regulator body for washer clearance
Jumbo nubbins

Level 2 09/21/90:

High strength front frame screw
Trim regulator valve for minimum clearance

Level 3 11/15/90:

Bronze power tube spring
Black spring pack
New twistlock and o-ringed barrel
Slotted power tube insert

Level 4 12/05/90:

Teflon o-ring for on/off valve
Washer for power tube

Level 5 01/01/91:

Rear nubbin ball drop

Level 5.1 02/11/91:

Milled frame to allow .750 pin

Level 5.2 04/09/91:

Extended, drilled power tube tip
Small ID power tube

Level 6.0 05/18/91:

Drop in sear
One piece barrel
Square spring
Wire nubbin
Large air chamber
Power Feed
Crown Point barrel

Level 6.5 08/21/91:

Extended power piston
Countersinked power tube tip

Level 6.6 11/11/91:

Computer designed power tube tip

Level 7.0 04/01/92:

Expanded air chamber with soldered on power tube tip



Hope, that helps.

-ClassicMagger

Mega Props to you Classic! Great Info! And yes Pather was a prototype AGD gun.

[paint magnet]

What are the Classic RT and Emag/Retro valves called then?