viking or karni?

[Troen]

what are the bad things about a viking? any at all?

price, rarity, parts arn't as common like with impulses and tippmans, expensive milling, and the fact an ion is alot cheaper and its just as fast, but that last part i read on pbnation.

[CoolHand]

Karnivor... for one reason only... Hypnotic Back Block!!!

Actually more from a logistics point of view, Karnivor is still in production and "upgrade" paths are... well.... numerous to say the least. Also because it shares many common parts with other Autocockers there's sure to be nore shortage of replacements should anything break.

That's my opinion anyway... or... get something else.. like ummm... an Angel (they look kinda like Vikings) or a Matrix *shrug*

Well, for one thing, with a Viking you don't NEED any upgrades, the thing is basically perfect stock.

Some would call them heavy, but that ones milled so it can't be too bad. They are fast as hell, require little maintenance, and basically never break down.

The only thing that could go to hell and not be found anywhere else is a solenoid (since AKA modifies the Humphrey 'noids), but there is no saying that you can't hand a new Hump 'noid and he old modified one to any competent machinist and solve that problem (besides, 'noids are good of many millions of shots, your finger should wear out before a well cared for 'noid will).

Out of those two, IMO you'd be brain dead to do anything but take the Vik.

Now, toss in a few other markers and you get a harder choice. . . . . . .

But I'd likely still go with the Viking.

[AzrealDarkmoonZ]

Don't the AKA noids just have the diode removed and then the connectors crimped?

Az

[CoolHand]

Don't the AKA noids just have the diode removed and then the connectors crimped?

Az

Nope, the stock ports in the bodies are plugged, and all new ports are machined into the bodies at 90 degrees to the originals.

There's a good bit of work to it, which is why they cost ~$100 from AKA.

That said, it's not more than any competent machinist can pull off.

[punkncat]

Nope, the stock ports in the bodies are plugged, and all new ports are machined into the bodies at 90 degrees to the originals.

There's a good bit of work to it, which is why they cost ~$100 from AKA.

That said, it's not more than any competent machinist can pull off.

I can't believe you said competent and machinist in the same sentence.....

Honestly I am no fan of the AKA line of markers. I think them a bit heavy a bit pricey and quite ugly. I would choose a trix over one any day.

I am a cocker fan, love almost all of them...save the Karni. I have not ever seen ONE make it though an entire day w/o a problem of some sort. Well more than their fair share of noid problems, among others. I think the Karni was a great idea, but was not put together well.

So given your choices and in spite of my bias, I would also go with the viking...sigh.

[VFX_Fenix]

Well, for one thing, with a Viking you don't NEED any upgrades, the thing is basically perfect stock.

Some would call them heavy, but that ones milled so it can't be too bad. They are fast as hell, require little maintenance, and basically never break down.

The only thing that could go to hell and not be found anywhere else is a solenoid (since AKA modifies the Humphrey 'noids), but there is no saying that you can't hand a new Hump 'noid and he old modified one to any competent machinist and solve that problem (besides, 'noids are good of many millions of shots, your finger should wear out before a well cared for 'noid will).

Out of those two, IMO you'd be brain dead to do anything but take the Vik.

Now, toss in a few other markers and you get a harder choice. . . . . . .

But I'd likely still go with the Viking.

How many guns have you seen broken down because something actually broke vs. someone deciding to tinker?

[master_alexander]

my downfall is always a stripped screw. i need to get better allen wrenches. although i have gotten good at getting them out.

i decided to go with a freeflow shocker. i decided this because it has a limited edition vert frame. for some reason i love ver frames and can not really use a .45 frame annymore. wierd hunh.