why are our markers anodized?

[wimag]

ok, annodization is a curing process to aluminum, baisically you dip it in the electro charged acid bath, and it creates a pourous hard oxidization layer, then pulled out of the bath, dyed(or not depending if you want a clear color or not) then the metal is boiled, which seals the color and the pores, creating a tough, metal covering, that prevents further oxidization and fatigue on the metal.

Finishes are all done before the marker touches the acid, whether polished or dust, is all dependant on prep work.

coming from a plating background that is the best way to sum it up.

[Jotsy]

ok, but can you confirm if the part needs to be connected to the electrodes during the dying (or sealing) process?

[magman007]

during the sealing process, no. not at all if you are interested in home annodization check out some tutorials online, it really isnt all that hard, i did my own e-mag, and it came out awesome, except for the gripframe, which threw us off, because it is a different grade of aluminum.

Also, i found that threading aluminum welding rod, without the white stuff on the out side, into any screwholes, was a great way to make full contact with the oart.

Also, when in the acid bath, you see air bubbles, shake them off by shaking the part lightly. this made a huge difference.

[slade]

during the sealing process, no. not at all if you are interested in home annodization check out some tutorials online, it really isnt all that hard, i did my own e-mag, and it came out awesome, except for the gripframe, which threw us off, because it is a different grade of aluminum.

Also, i found that threading aluminum welding rod, without the white stuff on the out side, into any screwholes, was a great way to make full contact with the oart.

Also, when in the acid bath, you see air bubbles, shake them off by shaking the part lightly. this made a huge difference.

i read up on ano a while ago, i was interested in it but i know its one of those things id try but itd be put on the back shelf and id never get around to learning to do it well.

did you do just a solid ano, or a fade/acid wash? do you have pictures?

[NinjaoftheNight79]

I saw someone say DuraCoat doesn't require baking. I dont know what you meant Duracoat doesn't need to be baked like powdercoat (some here are saying powder coat is get electronically). DuraCoat is baked on at high temperatures to harden it and make it durable.

As a question, someone said Anno actually changes the metal to that color. Does this mean that every bit of the metal (surface and deep inside) is changed color, of just the surface. What I am trying to figure out basically is if you scratch a annoed metal (without me actually doing it ), will the color scratch, or will it always be (Insert Color). If it is surface, then I could see that after a while of being scratched up, you would eventually see metalic. If it is all the metal, even after a lot of scratching it would still look (Insert Color).

[slade]

I saw someone say DuraCoat doesn't require baking. I dont know what you meant Duracoat doesn't need to be baked like powdercoat (some here are saying powder coat is get electronically). DuraCoat is baked on at high temperatures to harden it and make it durable.

As a question, someone said Anno actually changes the metal to that color. Does this mean that every bit of the metal (surface and deep inside) is changed color, of just the surface. What I am trying to figure out basically is if you scratch a annoed metal (without me actually doing it ), will the color scratch, or will it always be (Insert Color). If it is surface, then I could see that after a while of being scratched up, you would eventually see metalic. If it is all the metal, even after a lot of scratching it would still look (Insert Color).

its just the surface with type 2 (most ano). with type 3 it will be a bit deeper.

[shartley]

I saw someone say DuraCoat doesn't require baking. I dont know what you meant Duracoat doesn't need to be baked like powdercoat (some here are saying powder coat is get electronically). DuraCoat is baked on at high temperatures to harden it and make it durable.

Yeah, I said it does not need to be baked. And it does not.

Powder Coating is applied using electrostatic methods and then baked on.

DuraCoat is applied using standard airbrush methods and does NOT need to be baked. DuraBake on the other hand does need to be baked.

From the DuraCoat site itself in the FAQ area:

As an average gun owner, can I properly apply DuraCoat products without training?

Absolutely! DuraCoat is extremely easy to apply. Anyone can do it. DuraCoat was designed for the average gun owner. Preheating, baking and blasting are not required. Expensive, space consuming equipment is not needed. Simply clean and degrease the surface prior to application. If you don't have access to an airbrush, HVLP spray gun or conventional spray gun, our EZ Airbrush (#1SAB) is all the equipment needed and sells for less than $25.00.

http://www.lauerweaponry.com/index.cfm .

[Jotsy]

ok, i think i've got an idea of how fades are done, but does anybody know how splash anno are done? i've read that one method to get two color annos is to use rubber cement to put down a design. Is that right? doesn't really sound feasible considering how intricate some of the spalsh annos are. or is this some kind of trade secret that i'm not supposed to post on the internet?

[slade]

ok, i think i've got an idea of how fades are done, but does anybody know how splash anno are done? i've read that one method to get two color annos is to use rubber cement to put down a design. Is that right? doesn't really sound feasible considering how intricate some of the spalsh annos are. or is this some kind of trade secret that i'm not supposed to post on the internet?

yeah, rubber cement is what ive heard. it seems the most plausible. ive also heard masking off the metal, theoretically if you can use rubber cement, you could coat the piece with a rubber cement layer with parts cut out. there could be other methods used.

[slade]

someone here better claim credit for this: http://forum.caswellplating.com/phot...to=433&cat=503

[Cow hunter]

why is that?

[slade]

why is that?

because its an awesome ano and a mag? chances are the person who did it is here. and i want to know how the valve held up because they arent supposed to be re-ano'd (tolerance issues).

[magman007]

splash anno. from what i can tell, its done with rubber cement or hot glue. In lacrosse, if you wanted to do a splash head while custom dying, you spewed hot glue on the head, dyed the darkest color, picked off some of the glue, dyed the next darkest color, etc. if you strew rubber cement(because it isnt hot and wont seal the metal) on the piece, and decided to do 2 colors, dye the darkest color, peal off the glue, and dye the next color. darkest first, always.

[slade]

splash anno. from what i can tell, its done with rubber cement or hot glue. In lacrosse, if you wanted to do a splash head while custom dying, you spewed hot glue on the head, dyed the darkest color, picked off some of the glue, dyed the next darkest color, etc. if you strew rubber cement(because it isnt hot and wont seal the metal) on the piece, and decided to do 2 colors, dye the darkest color, peal off the glue, and dye the next color. darkest first, always.

what i dont understand is how reverse splash fades are done... unless an area is masked off, then everything else is masked off, but that seems too complex.