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  • Mind'sEye
    XT00157
    • May 2005
    • 186

    #31
    Nice pick up by SP. I guess they figure Rocky will do anything to win.

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    • warbeak2099
      That is my foot!
      • Jan 2004
      • 4447

      #32
      Originally posted by Baby Huey
      Its too bad that you are surrounded by those types of people. You might want make better decisions about who you spend time with.

      That was a very well thought out post until the end.
      I am so sorry that my personal experience contradicts with your opinion. I'll try not to make statements based on observations or facts in the future. Hold on, maybe we could all go back to before Galileo, Newton, and Brahe and produce "theories" based solely on conjecture and speculation.

      My post did not lose its well thought-out value. I stayed objective through the whole thing. I am not in any way trying to bash SP supporters. Like I said, I have encountered those who are not ignorant such as Warped1. I am simply stating what I have observed. Progress is made when everyone pools their observations and uses the collective data. I did not swerve from that ideal, please do not attempt to deny my right to express my own observations.
      Last edited by warbeak2099; 01-03-2006, 09:49 PM.
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      • nastymag
        XPSL D2/ Nppl D2
        • Dec 2000
        • 924

        #33
        i guess if ND got a better deal then good for them.

        i personally don't like SP products to much, and i have owned many of their products.


        I loved my old V-sport shoebox killa !

        i pretty much hated my impulse.

        hated my Maxflo

        Hated my Freak.

        what keeps me from buying any of the PL guns is how fast the anno wears off on many of them. my buddies Nerve is just a year old, with moderate use, but its already pink in some sections.
        Aced/predator Adrenalin LCD
        2k Dark Angel [
        98 LED Angel ( kinda )
        shark attack X-MAG
        Eclipse Factory Eblade
        "We Want More Squeege!! (rawwk)" - AGD
        "I'm looking for an xmag in excellent or perfect condition. I have a black 2k3 mech cocker with Palmer everything (worth about US $800) I can trade, which is in excellent condition, well timed, reliable, and pinches all but the oldest super brittle paint." Flyboy771

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        • WARPED1
          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
          • Nov 2001
          • 7458

          #34
          I give SP a minimum of at least 5 solid years.
          [Something Cool is Here]

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          • tyrion2323
            Euroball=goodness
            • Dec 2002
            • 1654

            #35
            Originally posted by WARPED1
            What I don't understand, is people on forums(not you 68, you're not complaining), says thier products suck, even if they've never used anything SP. They can't be that bad if so many teams use them. I know they get paid to use them, but having seen most of these teams playing in the off season(well, not RL or ND) they use these markers even when they don't have to!
            - low quality components
            - low quality control standards
            - infamously bad customer support

            There's a difference between teams who are given gun after gun to use when theirs break down and someone who can only afford one gun.
            My AIM Intimidator is better than your Automag. Get over it.
            Hobart Paintball AIM Paintball

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            • AGD
              The man from AGD

              • Oct 2000
              • 5916

              #36
              I thing what we are seeing here is not so much the continuing expansion of SP but the retraction of other big sponsors. Its no secret that National is in trouble so the first expense to go will be sponsorships. I think SP is playing on the fact they were a big winner with ION sales last year and are picking up the pieces cheap.

              I bet on more sponsorships by SP coming soon.

              AGD
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              • WARPED1
                I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                • Nov 2001
                • 7458

                #37
                Originally posted by tyrion2323
                - low quality components
                - low quality control standards
                - infamously bad customer support

                There's a difference between teams who are given gun after gun to use when theirs break down and someone who can only afford one gun.
                Never had any of these problems. Have owned 3 pre 03 Shockers, 3 03 Shockers, 2 Impulses, and an Ion. It seems to me, with any gun, that the only people that have problems with thier guns are the ones that instantly when they get it, they start replacing vital parts. Like valves and springs or bolts. Or even regulators on some guns.
                Every time I call SP for support, I get straight through to a tech. Thier service at big events, like World Cup, leaves alot to be desired. I like thier customer support, but they certainly aren't AGD(at least the way they used to be).
                [Something Cool is Here]

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                • Teamslayer76
                  I want my Sig back
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 480

                  #38
                  Originally posted by WenULiVeUdiE
                  Edit- By the way, Smart Parts is sponsorring a team in Scotland I believe. Not a major team, but still one more for the list.
                  I also heard this. It's mainly a secenario team...SP!

                  As for the products...

                  Quality Controll has always been a problem with SP.
                  The actual quality of the good products...is well outstanding. I love my Nerver to death...but guns get old...

                  About customer service. It isnt too great but its not bad. The only problem I had was with the part for my Nerve the new LPR, my marker was to have it put on before shipment but it didn't happen. So I tried to obtain the part but they said no my gun already had one...well long story short. I sent a couple emails and pictures they sent the part priority mail and even offred to install it for free. But I did it and its all fine!

                  thx,
                  Teamslayer
                  I'll have to take it out to dinner and a movie first. Will it go see AVP? - Halliday On "Will you date my valve?"

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                  • WARPED1
                    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 7458

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Teamslayer76
                    I also heard this. It's mainly a secenario team...SP!
                    SP8! I can see that.
                    [Something Cool is Here]

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                    • Baby Huey
                      Only Christ Can Save
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 255

                      #40
                      Originally posted by warbeak2099
                      I did not swerve from that ideal, please do not attempt to deny my right to express my own observations.

                      I made no attempt to deny your right to express your opinion, I was simply stating mine. Have a great day and God Bless.

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                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #41
                        I compare the new Shocker to the old V12 Jaguars.

                        Sleek, sexxy, and can perform with anything out there - as long as they are working right, and if you intend for them to be working right you better be planning on fixing it... often

                        Im thinking about getting another one...
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                        • WARPED1
                          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 7458

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Lohman446
                          I compare the new Shocker to the old V12 Jaguars.

                          Sleek, sexxy, and can perform with anything out there - as long as they are working right, and if you intend for them to be working right you better be planning on fixing it... often

                          Im thinking about getting another one...
                          I used to just relube with Dow 33 after every day of play I was done. And wiping any paint that might be on it of course.
                          [Something Cool is Here]

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                          • luke
                            lukescustoms.com

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 8216

                            #43
                            I found this humorous>


                            choosing Smart Parts for their guns, barrels and air systems--

                            --Adam Gardner, President, Smart Parts, Inc.
                            I think he meant to say "It was a real pleasure to "buy" top professional teams....

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                            • WARPED1
                              I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 7458

                              #44
                              Originally posted by luke
                              I found this humorous>




                              I think he meant to say "It was a real pleasure to "buy" top professional teams....
                              ANY sponsor buys teams. Empire bought thier teams, so what's your point?
                              [Something Cool is Here]

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                              • WenULiVeUdiE
                                Force of Nature Staff
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 1982

                                #45
                                Originally posted by luke
                                I think he meant to say "It was a real pleasure to "buy" top professional teams....
                                Well, I'm sure some of the teams went to Smart Parts first. They saw that they were offering more money and thought it would be a good decision.

                                But, I am just playing devil's advocate...sort of.
                                Hey, look at that! It's Santa!

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