Virtue Banned from PBN!

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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #16
    Originally posted by punkncat
    LOL.....dude made chips that people were willing to pay for. He filled a niche in the market. He did this to make money, not an example in ethics.
    Yeah, but his methods are what's in question. False advertising is still false advertising no matter if the end product is wanted or not.
    [Something Cool is Here]

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    • Teamslayer76
      I want my Sig back
      • Jul 2004
      • 480

      #17
      Originally posted by 68magOwner
      your kidding right? When advantage first made its stuff (the boards which only purpose was cheating) i wasnt a big fan, but, its not a scam or ripoff at all if thats what you wanted.

      And the virtue boards they are putting out now are great, have all the firing modes you need, and work super. Id say they work as well as tadao, but with more firing modes to mess with if you feel the urge.

      I do play for an advantagepb sponsored team but, ive been using tadao for a good while (no virtue for vikings yet), but, now getting virtue in our new angels, and, ive got no problem with that, the virtue boards are good products, otherwise i just wouldnt use them.
      You obviosly did not read what happened. They got banned for having multiple accounts and creating "fake feedback" with them. It was a scam! They are cheats! Get your info right before hand.
      I'll have to take it out to dinner and a movie first. Will it go see AVP? - Halliday On "Will you date my valve?"

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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #18
        I was really replying more in response to this
        Why would anyone trust a company who made products whose purpose was to cheat - considering they hid modes of fire and had modes meant to help you cheat and not get caught. And you trust this company based on there practiced ethics?
        than to the thread in general. I should have done so before.

        His breaking the rules of the board he spammed resulted in the logical response. I have no problem with that.

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        • manike
          INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

          • Jan 2001
          • 3820

          #19
          It wasn't just the false feedback, the same person under 5-6 different names would have a conversation with himself and make up problems with competing products and create a whole thread on how bad a competing product was. They particualarly targeted TAG (Predator boards) and Tadao, both of whome I know personally and regard as good people.

          They didn't just lie and fake feedback so people though their products were better than they were, they also went out of their way to attack other companies and make their products out to be bad.

          That's nasty, underhand, and illegal. Not to mention most of their boards and functionality are copies of what Predator and Tadao are doing.

          The thing is, it should have been over ages ago. But they are STILL even until last week taking actions to try and get their products back onto PBN and around the filter even after we told them they are not welcome, and to create false accounts to hype them.

          That is why even the word Virtue is currently in the filter and anyone attempting to get around it or talk about their products is not welcome, and gets a temp ban or worse.

          You simply can't trust any of the new accounts that post about Virtue and Advantage PB products. which is a shame.
          Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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          • SCpoloRicker
            HA HA I'm custom!!1
            • Jan 2004
            • 4375

            #20
            You know, to be honest... I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.

            /hell, I thought of it as a marketing idea
            God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #21
              Originally posted by punkncat
              I was really replying more in response to this than to the thread in general. I should have done so before.

              His breaking the rules of the board he spammed resulted in the logical response. I have no problem with that.
              I'm not necessarily saying the two are related. However, anyone who makes a product whose purpose is to cheat (and there is a difference when your product has ways intended to hide its function from the world) can't be considered exactly a stand up person to begin with can they?

              Its like hiring a thief to steal something for you and then being surprised when they had a fake id....
              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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              • punkncat
                One foot less
                • Feb 2003
                • 5841

                #22
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                I'm not necessarily saying the two are related. However, anyone who makes a product whose purpose is to cheat (and there is a difference when your product has ways intended to hide its function from the world) can't be considered exactly a stand up person to begin with can they?

                Its like hiring a thief to steal something for you and then being surprised when they had a fake id....

                Well in retrospect, given what we know now its easy to say that.

                However to assume that anyone with the buisiness savy to produce a (desired) product thats intention is to cheat is of a questionable character is in my opinion kinda going out on a limb. Are all manufacturers and users of radar detectors sketchy people?

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                • Lohman446
                  Useful posts: 7
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 9315

                  #23
                  Originally posted by punkncat
                  However to assume that anyone with the buisiness savy to produce a (desired) product thats intention is to cheat is of a questionable character is in my opinion kinda going out on a limb. Are all manufacturers and users of radar detectors sketchy people?
                  The people who originally came up with the idea, and the original designers were. Now its a built up industry and I think there is a difference. Like it or not, morally there is, at least to me, a difference in being first.
                  "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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