Why dislike for Smart Parts?

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  • Dayspring
    aka- The Day Wang

    • May 2001
    • 9664

    #31
    "Papers" is rather generic. Could be a court order or something like a cease & desist letter from SP. Tom didn't go into detail. However, I think he did mention it on AO somewhere, if you look, you could probably find it.

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    • MisterBones25
      ROCK ON!!!
      • Oct 2004
      • 321

      #32
      [QUOTE=tyrion2323]I'd rethink that statement. SP's quality control is notoriously lacking, from shipping faulty products to shipping products that simply didn't work. Their customer service is poor as well, and they charge customers ridiculous fees to fix problems that they created in the first place.QUOTE]

      when i said quality, i didnt mean like agd quality, my buddy owns a shocker and hasnt had any problems with it. i myself own an impulse and havnt had any problems with it other than the ones i have created. if you maintain your smart parts marker correctly, you should have no problems with it, and if you break it under warenty, they will fixit. now if you break it out of warenty they are going to charge you, like any other company i know.

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      • jfreak
        Registered User
        • Jan 2003
        • 14

        #33
        Smart Parts does make a few nice products. My biggest beef with them over the years has been shady business practices and outrageous claims on products that are overpriced and under perform. A few examples: Shocker trigger that fired off of "trigger events," original freak inserts that were not even close to advertised bore sizes, and my personal favorite, the Smartmag and the "magic box" which was most notable for magically emptying your wallet and making your mag exceedingly ugly, but little else.

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        • Richter
          Registered User
          • May 2001
          • 262

          #34
          smart parts electro patent is like Smuckers trying to patent the peanut butter and jelly sandwich without the crust; judge throughout the patent.

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          • SpitFire1299
            :P
            • Jun 2004
            • 1765

            #35
            Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


            Lots of reasons in there..

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            • hitech
              Not a shedder of vortices
              • Nov 2001
              • 4775

              #36
              Originally posted by Lohman446
              People are annoyed by SP protecting there legally obtained rights.
              I would have to disagree. They were not legally obtained... AND, it is there interpretation of what their patent covers that causes the problems. Since they are big enough to force their will on others, their interpretation stood for a while. That was until WDP joined the fight.

              With the usual respect,

              Hitech

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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #37
                Originally posted by Rick-USA
                There are a lot of folks in the paintball world who think things should only be done to help the sport regardless if a company can sustain business or not. So when SP decided to sue companies who had built markers based on a design covered by the patent things blew up in the paintball world...
                Ah, if it were only as simple as SP being issued a patent and enforcing it. It's not. Dayspring covered it well. He left out that SP left out acknowledgement of prior art on an application to update the patent that had been previously rejected (or maybe this was for the original patent, I don't remember).


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                • hitech
                  Not a shedder of vortices
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 4775

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dayspring
                  "Papers" is rather generic. Could be a court order or something like a cease & desist letter from SP.
                  I think Tom told me it was a cease & desist. I'm not sure. It was quite a while before the current lawsuits. He did say that "everyone" got one and that most everyone didn't believe SPs patent covered every electronic marker. Since, before the update(s) it didn't.


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                  • nastymag
                    XPSL D2/ Nppl D2
                    • Dec 2000
                    • 924

                    #39
                    I don't like Smart Parts because of questionable business practices, and REALLLLY bad Quality controll.

                    yeah i have owned 2 SP guns, a max flow and a freak.

                    i have owned many other guns, and honestly i have never been impressed with SP products.
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                    • Baby Huey
                      Only Christ Can Save
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 255

                      #40

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