Pnuemaggers.....is it worth it?

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  • Skoad
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 3265

    #1

    Pnuemaggers.....is it worth it?

    Is it worth doing the pneu-mag mod? I dream of a hair trigger but know it won't be like that when finished... Is it significantly better than just a plain ULT?
  • etjoyride
    0:-1
    • Mar 2005
    • 2149

    #2
    I had an almsot complete one. I just never ended up using it....I could actually walk it, although it wasnt quite an electro. If you don't like using a ton of bounce w/ the ULT then i would definetly say the mod is worth it.


    PM me because i have all the parts if you decide to make the project.

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    • PnueMagger

      #3
      If you want the performance your talking about, you will need an xvalve w/ ULT anyways to get the low pressure in the piston. It is very fun and If you set it up with a fabco msv-1, clippard mpa-3, and micro rock. From what I hear the QEV isn't really needed unless you want to fire fast like 15+ bps. But no one can pull that fast neways. So you can get a pretty light pull. And you can always put a stock frame back on if want the r/t feel again.

      So much fun, Not many people have them and it gives you a new sense of pride in your marker.

      EDIT: As for the hair trigger, Mine has a around .95mm pull with the modified MSV-1. Is that hair enough. In all honesty though, I like the trigger loner so I set it around 2mm...It is much easier to walk that way. So try to get that sucker as far up the trigger as you can. Batteries are for Pussies!
      Last edited by Guest; 01-25-2006, 11:35 PM.

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      • Skoad
        Registered User
        • Feb 2002
        • 3265

        #4
        I like my trigger pull a little long too. By wanting a 'hair' trigger i meant weight of pull.

        Also I do not want reactivity. I'll have Xvalve and ULT, just curious to how light the pull can get with the homebrew pneu kit.

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        • PnueMagger

          #5
          Originally posted by Skoad
          I like my trigger pull a little long too. By wanting a 'hair' trigger i meant weight of pull.

          Also I do not want reactivity. I'll have Xvalve and ULT, just curious to how light the pull can get with the homebrew pneu kit.
          The higher up the frame - the lighter. You won't be "lighter" than electros. But you can get right in the mix with them. Go for the msv-1 for max lightness.

          Just Do IT! If you don't like it someone will buy it and you won't loose $

          Put it in a classic frame! REAL cheap!

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          • slade
            Carpe Noctem
            • Apr 2004
            • 3442

            #6
            Originally posted by Skoad
            Is it worth doing the pneu-mag mod?
            nope.
            xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
            68/30 PE nitro tank
            cp unimount
            halo B

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            • nicad
              wannabe newbe
              • May 2002
              • 992

              #7
              Originally posted by PnueMagger
              If you want the performance your talking about, you will need an xvalve w/ ULT anyways to get the low pressure in the piston. It is very fun and If you set it up with a fabco msv-1, clippard mpa-3, and micro rock. From what I hear the QEV isn't really needed unless you want to fire fast like 15+ bps. But no one can pull that fast neways. So you can get a pretty light pull. And you can always put a stock frame back on if want the r/t feel again.

              So much fun, Not many people have them and it gives you a new sense of pride in your marker.

              EDIT: As for the hair trigger, Mine has a around .95mm pull with the modified MSV-1. Is that hair enough. In all honesty though, I like the trigger loner so I set it around 2mm...It is much easier to walk that way. So try to get that sucker as far up the trigger as you can. Batteries are for Pussies!
              I have hit 18bps on a hAir..
              It is tuneable down to 0.25mm and 1.7oz pull (measuring from same spot on the trigger for both distance and weight).
              I always say you must list the pull length and weight.. otherwise just one parameter leaves the other as a huge variable.

              Now that we have our patent issued, there is a very slight glimmer of hope that we will release a "tinkerer's hAir block" of valve and ram to mount into your favorite frame, with your own modifications of course.
              Will it be soon? ofcourse not!!! but its not 100% dead...

              out!
              ColinMoritz

              Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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              • Skoad
                Registered User
                • Feb 2002
                • 3265

                #8
                whats holding you back now?

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                • nicad
                  wannabe newbe
                  • May 2002
                  • 992

                  #9
                  Time, mostly. Been rolling on new products here lately so other commitments have been made and must be met now.

                  I will create a thread about it once/if we get closer...
                  ColinMoritz

                  Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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                  • Arstron
                    fusionowners.org

                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2347

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nicad
                    I have hit 18bps on a hAir..
                    It is tuneable down to 0.25mm and 1.7oz pull (measuring from same spot on the trigger for both distance and weight).
                    I always say you must list the pull length and weight.. otherwise just one parameter leaves the other as a huge variable.

                    Now that we have our patent issued, there is a very slight glimmer of hope that we will release a "tinkerer's hAir block" of valve and ram to mount into your favorite frame, with your own modifications of course.
                    Will it be soon? ofcourse not!!! but its not 100% dead...

                    out!


                    I didnt think I would ever hear.. err see you post about the hair possibly being released (even if its just parts). Congratulations on the patent!

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                    • BigEvil
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 9333

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Arstron


                      I didnt think I would ever hear.. err see you post about the hair possibly being released (even if its just parts). Congratulations on the patent!

                      Ditto Nicad

                      So if you were issued a patent, then that must mean that it is signifcantly different from whats already been patented.

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                      • latches109

                        #12

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                        • neppo1345
                          I Will Eat Your Children..
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1913

                          #13
                          Nicad...congratulations on the patent...I hope it all processes smoothly, can't wait to see it.

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                          • slade
                            Carpe Noctem
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 3442

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigEvil
                            Ditto Nicad

                            So if you were issued a patent, then that must mean that it is signifcantly different from whats already been patented.
                            i think it only has to be about 10% different, it doesnt have to be too significant.

                            but this is good news.
                            xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                            68/30 PE nitro tank
                            cp unimount
                            halo B

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                            • Arstron
                              fusionowners.org

                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2347

                              #15
                              Originally posted by latches109
                              No, not worth it, just wait for a drop in frame to come out; or learn to shoot the stock valve using the reactive trigger. I can hit 12-15 consistently, using zak vetters rapid fire technique.
                              Some people like to shoot legally though.

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