warp feed

[FARMER00]

what is does everybody think is the best based on installation and performance. Warpfeed, Qloader or the new VL velosity.Cost is not an issue

[Pacifist_Farmer]

What kind of hopper are you using with the Warp? Put a Halo B on there and I think you have a winner.

[FARMER00]

wats the point on putting a reloader on the warpfeed if the warp can only feed as fast as it is being fed by the hopper y not just put the hopper on top like anyothergun

[blamtro]

The purpose of the warp was a super low profile (no hopper hits)

[buzzboy]

Personally I think that Q is the best but that is just me(after zman's vids and other research). After that I would go with a warp with a Victory Halo on it.

[fullofpaint]

Q is sweet but in tourney ball I'm too worried about breaking the pods, I've had several break on me in rec ball. Warp's imo are too heavy for the advantage you gain. I like the VLocity myself

[bentothejam1n]

it depends... if you go for the warped then your gun will be a lot heavier than most...

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187836

[Pacifist_Farmer]

Having read this again, I'm not sure that poll is even valid. Whats the criteria? What do you mean by "best"?

Do you mean fastest? Then I think the Qloader wins. Do you mean capacity? Then the Velosity wins, the Warp itself only holds about 15 balls. Do you mean lowest profile? Then the Warp+(any hopper) probably ties with the Qloader.

Blamtro hit the nail on the head. You can't really compare the Warp to the velosity, two different functions.

Clarify what you mean by best and we could turn this into a good thread.

[FARMER00]

im tryin to find out what is the best buy most practical etc... Im just lookin for what other people think and why

[Pacifist_Farmer]

Alright.

A warp feed is the type of thing you should either 1) be very enthusiastic about or 2) try before you buy.

They are another $100 on top of the hopper you will need, and the feel and weight of a warp feed is not for every one, another thing to remember is that it takes batteries and thats one more thing you have to keep track of. I have used a warp with revy's for several years and have never been dissatisfied. I have lately moved to a vert feed Halo for a change of pace but would go back to the warp in a heart beat. Warps are (in my opinion) best used on guns with large drop forwards, getting the tank as far forward as possible, this makes a concentrated mass which you can tuck into your body very easily, I often carried my marker against my chest when not firing, it was comfortable but took a little getting used to. You may also find you need a foregrip, and possibly a foregrip extender to get it far enough forward to work well.

Sadly I don't a Qloader yet, and probably will never own a Velosity.

[camilion705]

This poll doesn't make much sense to me... How do you compare the Qloader, a Warp, and the Vlocity? Two of the options are quite unconventional and the other quite ordinary.

In myopinion the Vlocity is better simply because it puts the hopper where I believe it should be. (Not that the others aren't cool...)

[Tao]

The Q loader is hands down the fastest loader able to feed consistantly in the mid 30s.
However you have to reload twice as often and jams are disasterous (if they happen).

The 12v warp can feed faster than all other loaders INCLUDING the V board halo so I am assuming that it will still beat the Velocity(I haven't used one yet). A cheetah boarded halo might be a little faster on average than the warp.

If you have a ule warb body then you are absolutly screwed if your warp goes down unless you can bolt on that Q loader in a hurry :P

Overall I would still use a warp for the hopper advantage even over a cheetah halo. If you care about the extra weight go to the guy or get an ugly ion :P

[Tao]

This poll doesn't make much sense to me... How do you compare the Qloader, a Warp, and the Vlocity? Two of the options are quite unconventional and the other quite ordinary.

In myopinion the Vlocity is better simply because it puts the hopper where I believe it should be. (Not that the others aren't cool...)

It is only there because in the beggining gravity was the only way you could trick out your loader.....

Any other ahemm "projectile launcher" ( :P ) uses a magazine or some other container below the ummm "launcher".

[Tao]

wats the point on putting a reloader on the warpfeed if the warp can only feed as fast as it is being fed by the hopper y not just put the hopper on top like anyothergun

Actuyally the warp allows the loader to feed faster.
Say we have a halo on top of a gun (no warp). The halo can feed in the lab free falling into a bucket say 30BPS. This we will assume is its max speed. We can assume that it needs to "build up speed" from going to feeding nothing to feeding 30bps.
Alright say we are now feeding into the breach. Now when the gun is at rest the breach is open. Now when the gun fires with most gun the bolt closes the breach. So lets pick a rough number for the time it takes for the bolt to fire and return allowing the halo to feed again say 0.02seconds (fast right?). Now if the halo can feed 30bps the it can feed one ball every 0.033seconds. Now lets say that we are firing at a rate of 20bps now your bolt has closed the breach for a total of 0.2seconds. This still seems small but with the left over time the halo is only feeding for .8s for a total of 24bps. Sure it still feeds but now lets go to every speedball player's magic number of 20. Now the bolt is closing the breach for a total of 0.4s almost half a second. Now with the left over time the halo can feed 18bps.

Ok the bolt speed I believe is a bit slow for a high end marker but the halo will not be feeding at a rate of 1 ball every 0.033 seconds either because it has to feed, wait for the breach to open again, and then start up again. Therefore you are never running at full speed.

The warp is always pushing on the balls but its design doesn't squash them together so it can continuously feed while the breach is closed, keeping feed speed at a maximum. And on the other end your loader feeding into the warp is feeding into an empty space or has a ball in the way which means that it is keeping up with the feed rate of the warp at that time.

[nate2k191]

very insightful tao...

I own a warp and I wanna try out a q-loader, but no one i know owns one. and i havent heard of a vlocity until now =x so im not gonna vote