Jabronies on SI

[BigEvil]

--------From todays NY post-------------

Staten Island

Three teenagers were arrested after they fired paintballs at a school bus in Eltingville, police sources said yesterday.

Michael Venanzini, Nicholas Malgieri and Michael Schulmann, all 17, were in a white SUV near a school bus at the intersection of Petrus and Wainwright avenues at 3:15 p.m. Wednesday, the sources said. At least one of the teens allegedly used an air pistol to fire the black paintballs, several of which hit the bus.

The driver called police and gave a description of the SUV and its plate number. Police stopped the SUV and spotted the barrel of a paintball gun jutting from a knapsack inside, sources said.


My first reaction was that this was young children, but then I realized that they were old enough to drive. I hate kids. Now the cops where I live will flip-out at the mere mention of paintball.

To the three assclowns involved, you have now managed to:
-bring much un-needed negative attention to the game
-make life for the SI outlaw-ball groups more difficult (especially the bunch that play at the Ward)
-make all SI ballers look bad
-and make yourselves look like ***holes.

Congratulations.

[Lohman446]

And everytime a crime is committed with a baseball bat everyone associates it with the game of baseball...

/Or not

[BigEvil]

And everytime a crime is committed with a baseball bat everyone associates it with the game of baseball...

/Or not

If they called baseball bats baseball-guns then it sure would.

SI is a small place. There is a harmony between the paintball community and the NYC police that took 14 years to develope. Not only on the Island, but throughout NYC. It wasnt until a couple of years ago, that ANY type of paintball business could even legally sell markers. Any store that was paintball related was regularly paid visits by the police checking up on them. Operation Stingray in brooklyn, which is a scuba shop that also deals PB gear, was cited a few times for various reasons.

There is a fairly large outlaw movement on SI as well. Over the years, the number of places that we could play quickly shrank. We are down to 2 or 3 now, the "Mental Ward" being on of the biggest and most well known. To this point, the cops have been cool with anyone playing there. Crap like this will QUICKLY lead to unwanted attention.

Not to mention the one and ONLY field in NYC that is on SI. If these schmucks bought the gear and paintballs they used there, then the cops will be all over them like white on rice. (especailly if they are under 18)

So please do not make such ridiculous comparisons.

[marpat]

If they called baseball bats baseball-guns then it sure would.

SI is a small place. There is a harmony between the paintball community and the NYC police that took 14 years to develope. Not only on the Island, but throughout NYC. It wasnt until a couple of years ago, that ANY type of paintball business could even legally sell markers. Any store that was paintball related was regularly paid visits by the police checking up on them. Operation Stingray in brooklyn, which is a scuba shop that also deals PB gear, was cited a few times for various reasons.

There is a fairly large outlaw movement on SI as well. Over the years, the number of places that we could play quickly shrank. We are down to 2 or 3 now, the "Mental Ward" being on of the biggest and most well known. To this point, the cops have been cool with anyone playing there. Crap like this will QUICKLY lead to unwanted attention.

Not to mention the one and ONLY field in NYC that is on SI. If these schmucks bought the gear and paintballs they used there, then the cops will be all over them like white on rice. (especailly if they are under 18)

So please do not make such ridiculous comparisons.

Man that sux... I play at the ward! BigEvil is right when he said it's a delicate relationship between us outlaw ballers and the cops there. We keep the paint on the field and they leave us alone. Unfortunately the area surrounding the ward is being developed and the size of the playing fields is slowly and surely decreasing. Hopefully we'll have 1 or 2 more years before it all goes to residential / commercial development. Other than "The Ward" S.I paintball is super overpriced.

Stupid kids.

[Rudz]

idiots

For every idiot like this, they should have posters showing the pb community how dumb they are..and post em everywhere..so we all know who theyy are, and they look rediculous..

[SummaryJudgement]

Jabronies!

[BigEvil]

I play at the ward!

How come I dont know you? We must have played together at some point?

**Edit: btw, The Seaview Farm Colony, which we lovingly refer to as "The Mental Ward", was declared a historical landmark by NYC. When the little leauge field was built, activist groups flipped out. Basically, everything is supposed to be 'hands-off' until some kind of deal can be made to actually preserve the buildings and grounds. There was a group that wanted to level everything and build condos, which fortunately, didnt happen. Whomever is going to do anything on the site will be required to preserve the existing structures. Which is why it has been so difficult for anyone to build anything there.

I havent been over there in a few months, I hope nothing else was demolished recently.

If anyone is curious, there are pics in my Jayloo gallery of the Ward.
Here

[Lohman446]

I don't think its a ridiculous comparison.

I'm sure when you play you have express permission to play wherever you are playing and are not just "sneaking" onto federal/state/private land and hoping to get away with it. Assuming that is the case you really have nothing to worry about from the police.

If you do not have permission, well... thats a whole new ball game and I would cautiously suggest you need to look at your own actions.

[BigEvil]

This could have wide spread impact on the paintball community here, not just the outlaw players . Bad publicity makes people start to look at things closer. Non-players see kids running around with 'guns shooting things'. PERIOD. All I can say is I am extremely grateful that no one got hurt. Kids will be kids, and we all did stupid things when we were young, but the anti-gun movement in NY is absurd to begin with. All it takes is something like this to get blown out of proportion to give them a reason to start 'regulating' changing laws, or whatever it is those freaks do.

Isolated incident or not. The SI golf driving range went through hell to get a permit to open SIPB. I know for a fact that the police used to keep a close eye on what was sold over the counter there. There is also a small scuba shop nearbye that fills paintball bottles, and rents scuba tanks. Paintballers are a nice peice of his business, so much so that he said he was going to start selling paint.

If those kids purchased their guns, paint, or air from either of these places, and someone got hurt in the incident, then they would be sued. While it may nto be my problem, I certainly dont want to see the pb businesses in the area affected.

In the 14 years I have played outlaw ball on SI, I have hed 2 run-ins with the cops. Once on an easter Sunday when someone saw us "with guns" and the other time when we got pulled over because we were 'a car full of people wearing camoflage''.

Of course, we all should be cautious of our own action. Duh. But all it take is one retard to screw things up for the rest of us. Im not sure what part of the country you live in, but here its different than in most of the real world. Myself, and many other players that I know go out of their way to make sure things do not get ruined in our little corner of the world. Whether by buying the chrono, bringing extra barrel plugs or goggles, helping the new guys, enforcing safety to our best extent. It also has meant that sometimes we have to police ourselves.

There was also an incident about two years ago where some 10 year old shot out his neighbors kids eye. That is still fresh in everyones mind. When my friend called me this morning to tell me about the post article, he even mentioned that , and he lives in NJ.

Staten Island used to be largely wooded. That was 25 years ago. THere are still large parts that are wooded, out of the way, and publicly owned. No one really has to go 'sneaking in' anywhere. We drive right in and set up camp. As long as no one does anything stupid, no one bothers anyone.

and if anyone talks about 'sneaking in' to places, then im sure that they never played baseball, football, or freeze-tag when they were kids in places they werent supposed to be in.


So im sorry if I am up on my peddistal today, but I dont want crap like this to **** things for me or the rest of us.

[usagi_tetsu]

For every idiot like this, they should have posters showing the pb community how dumb they are..and post em everywhere..so we all know who theyy are, and they look rediculous..

It's usually not the players from the paintball community who commit stupidity like this. Oh, I'm sure one or more of these kids has played rec-ball at a local field, but nothing like on a regular basis. It's people outside of the community that make us inside the community look bad. It's our job as the players inside the community that we fling paint on fields against other players (or at targets on enclosed target ranges), and everyone involved is there of their own free will and said people are also using all the required safety features: masks, barrel blocking devices, and chronys. Even after we show 'em how we play, people are still going to associate our sport with violence. What can we do about this, ultimately? We're never going to rid ourselves of the image that paintball is inherently violent in some peoples' eyes. You can't please everyone. All we can do is to keep putting out the truth of our sport, and maybe they'll start listening to us.

[marpat]

How come I dont know you? We must have played together at some point?

**Edit: btw, The Seaview Farm Colony, which we lovingly refer to as "The Mental Ward", was declared a historical landmark by NYC. When the little leauge field was built, activist groups flipped out. Basically, everything is supposed to be 'hands-off' until some kind of deal can be made to actually preserve the buildings and grounds. There was a group that wanted to level everything and build condos, which fortunately, didnt happen. Whomever is going to do anything on the site will be required to preserve the existing structures. Which is why it has been so difficult for anyone to build anything there.

I havent been over there in a few months, I hope nothing else was demolished recently.

If anyone is curious, there are pics in my Jayloo gallery of the Ward.
Here

Well I go there irregularly.. i'm usually there with a couple of friends of mine decked out in the MARPAT gear. we may have played a couple of times. Good thing to know about it being a land mark. everything is pretty much the same.. except more gated areas. probably to keep the animals out of the open buildings.

[Lohman446]

. Even after we show 'em how we play, people are still going to associate our sport with violence. What can we do about this, ultimately? We're never going to rid ourselves of the image that paintball is inherently violent in some peoples' eyes.

Because it is inherently violent. In the end we are "shooting" at each other. Have we taken steps to make it as safe as possible? Of course we have. But that does not make in "non-violent". Don't get too worried about tags, what we do is violent.

[11 Bravo]

I hope Charles Schumer doesnt hear about this..


....I hate him.

[LS1 WS6]

Jabronies!

I don't mean to sound like some west coast fool, but, what does Jabronies mean?

[BigEvil]

I don't mean to sound like some west coast fool, but, what does Jabronies mean?

You never watched WWE and saw the Rock do one of his famous promos?