Mag rail sear slot....

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  • Skoad
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 3265

    #1

    Mag rail sear slot....

    Is there a specific reason why the slot where the sear is, is in a zig-zag cut? It looks like its there to allow a bit of movement, but not too much wiggle....But I can't think of why it would need to wiggle anyway.

    Just curious if its really needed or can just a straight, thin slot be there instead.
  • StygShore
    Waterford, MI

    • Aug 2002
    • 2854

    #2
    material

    actually... with the zigzag, more material can be cut out, as you are only prividing a guide at the points where the zigzag comes in, rather than providint support all the way down both sides of the channel.


    Styg
    Sometimes It's Good to be EVIL

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    • Skoad
      Registered User
      • Feb 2002
      • 3265

      #3
      More material to be cut out would only be done if they were trying to save weight and well, if they were trying for that then they would have gutted the sucker ULE style a long time ago I *highly* doubt they did it for weight - I mean look at how much weight they saved! Gotta be in the hundredths of an oz.

      And it has to take more time/money to make a zigzag than a straight cut...Just wondering if it actually has a functional purpose for being like that.

      Only other thing i can think of is to reduce 'drag' on the sear to just a few points of contact. Really don't see a need for it myself, but maybe thats not the answer.
      Last edited by Skoad; 02-24-2006, 10:30 AM.

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      • slade
        Carpe Noctem
        • Apr 2004
        • 3442

        #4
        i was wondering that too. but the sear doesnt need a guide, the ULE rails have that area milled out.
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        • CoolHand
          Logic Industries LLC
          • Jan 2003
          • 3769

          #5
          They did it like that to save a tool change.

          How do you make a slot that will control a sear that is 1/8" wide, with a 3/16" end mill?

          You make the slot zig zagged.

          Look at a AM/MM rail, and ask yourself what size end mill could they do every bit of that work with?

          That's right, a 3/16" FEM.

          It was done that way to make it easier to machine.

          Why use a 3/16" instead of a 1/8"?

          Because that 3/16" end mill is about 3x stiffer than an 1/8", which means it flexes less, which means it will be harder to break, and will give a slot that is closer to the dimension you are after, AND you can feed it faster. You can see about a 200% gain in productivity by going up that 1/16" in diameter.

          Funny how the little things make such big differences in the manufacturing world . . . . . . .
          Ryan Shanks
          Logic Industries LLC

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          • slade
            Carpe Noctem
            • Apr 2004
            • 3442

            #6
            Originally posted by CoolHand
            They did it like that to save a tool change.

            How do you make a slot that will control a sear that is 1/8" wide, with a 3/16" end mill?

            You make the slot zig zagged.

            Look at a AM/MM rail, and ask yourself what size end mill could they do every bit of that work with?

            That's right, a 3/16" FEM.

            It was done that way to make it easier to machine.

            Why use a 3/16" instead of a 1/8"?

            Because that 3/16" end mill is about 3x stiffer than an 1/8", which means it flexes less, which means it will be harder to break, and will give a slot that is closer to the dimension you are after, AND you can feed it faster. You can see about a 200% gain in productivity by going up that 1/16" in diameter.

            Funny how the little things make such big differences in the manufacturing world . . . . . . .
            hmm, very smart ryan. i didnt even consider the tooling.
            xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
            68/30 PE nitro tank
            cp unimount
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            • wanna-b-ballin'
              Pump Player
              • Jan 2005
              • 1380

              #7
              thats ingenious. i dont think that would have ever occured to me.
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