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  • Resurection
    bringing the game back
    • Aug 2005
    • 923

    #1

    Mag Matrix (What parts go with what?)

    OK folks, I can not find this anywhere so I am building it and would love all the old schoolers to please help me out and fill in data where needed.

    I am constructing a matrix of all major parts/accessories from AGD, and other custom makers, to show which items mmix with others, but more important also lists weight, size, etc. For example, I am starting with this table of rails (please correct or add data for me)
    Code:
    Name Maker Weight Length Height Width OOP Body's Frame's
    AM/MM AGD 4.6-4.7 ? ? ? N Classic, Mini All
    RT Classic AGD ? ? ? ? N RT Classic All*
    RT Pro AGD ? ? ? ? N ULE All
    Wingless Tac AGD ? ? ? ? Y Tac-One, Classic, Mini, RT Pro All
    E-Mag AGD ? ? ? ? N Emag Emag
    E-Mag ULE AGD ? ? ? ? N Emag Emag
    Tunarail Tuna ? ? ? ? ? ULE All
    Dallara DW 4.2oz ? ? ? Y ULE All
    Dallara ULE DW 2.6-2.8oz ? ? ? Y ULE All
    Karta DW 5.5oz ? ? ? N ULE All
    Karta ULE DW 3.1oz ? ? ? N ULE All
    Shadow RPG 2.7oz ? ? ? N ULE All
    Splinter RPG 3.9oz ? ? ? N ULE All
    Thrasher RPG 4.0oz ? ? ? N ULE All
    AGD - Air Gun Designs
    DW - Deadlywind
    RPG - Rouge Paintball (The Mag Smith)
    Tuna - Tunaman
    Last edited by Resurection; 03-06-2006, 04:51 PM.
  • slade
    Carpe Noctem
    • Apr 2004
    • 3442

    #2
    so the "body" column is the bodies the rail is compatible with?

    logic had the alpha rail, and maybe another.

    for frames:

    logic has 3 versions of mech frames and 1 electro frame. www.logicpaintball.com

    theres the RPG chimera frame, intelliframe, y-grip, z-grip, benchmark frame, medusa (sp?) frame, dye frame, and origional agd frames.

    theres the karta and dallara dimpled and undimpled, and two versions of chord bodies. you need the it body and exile body. theres too many AGD bodies for me to list.

    theres the (two) RPG and CCM feednecks, i think there may be a bart parts feedneck.

    theres other misc accessories like the snatch grip.
    xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
    68/30 PE nitro tank
    cp unimount
    halo B

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    • punkncat
      One foot less
      • Feb 2003
      • 5841

      #3
      RTP rail went with the ULE and the Emag SS bodies. It did have the slot for the twistlock.

      Logic made two different rails. One was AM/MM and the V2 was RTP. I know the "classic" rail had the twistlock spot so it would take all bodies accordingly. I am unsure about that on the RTP version.

      Considering that aside from the classic RT all other mechanical frames are designed to retrofit, I think "All" pretty much sums it up.
      ..but if you are going to get into it Powerlyte made a 2x classic RT frame, and a 1x "all" frame.

      This is a good idea. It should be stickied maybe in the tech help forum or something when completed.
      Last edited by punkncat; 03-05-2006, 11:10 AM.

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      • punkncat
        One foot less
        • Feb 2003
        • 5841

        #4
        Originally posted by RogueFactor
        Spelled correctly, its R-o-g-u-e.

        Oh yeah? How would YOU know anyway?!?

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        • mobsterboy
          Mr.StealYoDallara

          • Aug 2004
          • 2371

          #5
          The mag smith and rogue are in no way connected. The mag smith is just a shop that sells products. Rogue is a custom manufacturer that sells his products to The Mag Smith.
          Thats like affiliating hotwheels and walmart just because they sell the cars
          RAWR
          Dallara Den

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          • Resurection
            bringing the game back
            • Aug 2005
            • 923

            #6
            Originally posted by RogueFactor
            Spelled correctly, its R-o-g-u-e.
            Hey, it was early on a Sunday morning, and besides... i thought rouge was your color?

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            • Pyroboy597
              We need more room for titl
              • May 2004
              • 518

              #7
              When I first read the title.. I thought to myself... ::Mag... + Matrix... = ::

              Then I came in to see the wrong kind of mag matrix

              Anyway... good idea, this should be stickied in like an FAQ thread in the Tech Section,
              IM SORRY AO FOR DISOBEYING YOUR SIG RULES!!!! FORGIVE ME!!!

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              • Resurection
                bringing the game back
                • Aug 2005
                • 923

                #8
                Originally posted by Pyroboy597
                When I first read the title.. I thought to myself... ::Mag... + Matrix... = ::

                Then I came in to see the wrong kind of mag matrix

                Anyway... good idea, this should be stickied in like an FAQ thread in the Tech Section,
                Sorry to get you hyped up. I am working on the RAILs table now and will move on to the rest of the primary parts soon.

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                • Tunaman
                  Specialized AGD Tech

                  • Dec 2000
                  • 8643

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Resurection
                  Hey, it was early on a Sunday morning, and besides... i thought rouge was your color?
                  It is his favorite color...of his lipstick!
                  Email me for low prices on ALL AGD Products and more. [email protected]
                  Tunamart

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                  • Resurection
                    bringing the game back
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 923

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RogueFactor
                    Check www.themagsmith.com/forums .

                    You will find a weight list there. Ive been trying to set something like this up myself, just no time at the moment.

                    Also, double-check the weight you have for the ULE Dallara. I just weighed one, and it comes up 2.8 oz.
                    I will update table, I was just going by the posted text on their website (ULE milling removes approx. 1.6oz" and I am SURE that the measurements are not precise or neccessarily duplicted in every one. Thanks for the update.

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                    • GT
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #11
                      Guys I have lots of weights pumped into excell. I just need access to a website that will actually sticky the data. PBN and AO both did not sticky my "how to build a mag" thread. A lot of work for nothing. I also have an article on how to switch regs and tanks. Just need a place for the devine knowledge.
                      FOR SALE
                      on/off, sear, PROConnect
                      AGD back bottle asa, laser logo

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                      • Automaggot68

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mobsterboy
                        The mag smith and rogue are in no way connected. The mag smith is just a shop that sells products. Rogue is a custom manufacturer that sells his products to The Mag Smith.
                        Thats like affiliating hotwheels and walmart just because they sell the cars

                        You're kidding right?
                        They're the same person, everyone knows that.

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                        • Resurection
                          bringing the game back
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 923

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RogueFactor
                          A stock AM/MM rail weighs ~4.7 oz.(The ones with the additional foregrip mounting holes weigh 4.6)

                          4.7-1.6= 3.1 oz.(4.6-1.6= 3 oz.)

                          At 2.8 oz., the ULE Dallaras I have here are the lightest Colin has done.
                          I was going off what their website stated:

                          base 4.2-1.6 = 2.6oz
                          So I guess the 'sculpted' part took 0.5 off already.

                          Thanks for the stock AM/MM rail data!

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                          • Resurection
                            bringing the game back
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 923

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RogueFactor
                            His estimate is an approximation. Mine is straight off the scale. I can put one on the scale here and take a pic for you, if that would help your matrix.
                            I believe you, I already changed the matrix to include your weight from the first post. I was estimating the ULE rail weight from his measurement. I am sure that anything non-AGD will likely be .1 or so up down depending on the runs since they are not as mass produced.

                            So Rogue and MagSmith aren't the same person? Who'da thunk that?

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                            • bentothejam1n
                              Support our troops
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1428

                              #15
                              So Rogue and MagSmith aren't the same person? Who'da thunk that?
                              Correct me if I'm wrong but Rogue is only putting out the product while the website sells them. Rogue is working on his own website

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