Mag Matrix (What parts go with what?)

[Resurection]

OK folks, I can not find this anywhere so I am building it and would love all the old schoolers to please help me out and fill in data where needed.

I am constructing a matrix of all major parts/accessories from AGD, and other custom makers, to show which items mmix with others, but more important also lists weight, size, etc. For example, I am starting with this table of rails (please correct or add data for me)

	

		
Name
		
Maker
		
Weight
		
Length
		
Height
		
Width
		
OOP
		
Body's
		
Frame's
	
	

		
AM/MM
		
AGD
		
4.6-4.7
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
Classic, Mini
		
All
	
	

		
RT Classic
		
AGD
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
RT Classic
		
All*
	
	

		
RT Pro
		
AGD
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Wingless Tac
		
AGD
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
Y
		
Tac-One, Classic, Mini, RT Pro
		
All
	
	

		
E-Mag
		
AGD
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
Emag
		
Emag
	
	

		
E-Mag ULE
		
AGD
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
Emag
		
Emag
	
	

		
Tunarail
		
Tuna
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Dallara
		
DW
		
4.2oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
Y
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Dallara ULE
		
DW
		
2.6-2.8oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
Y
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Karta
		
DW
		
5.5oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Karta ULE
		
DW
		
3.1oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Shadow
		
RPG
		
2.7oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Splinter
		
RPG
		
3.9oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
ULE
		
All
	
	

		
Thrasher
		
RPG
		
4.0oz
		
?
		
?
		
?
		
N
		
ULE
		
All
	

AGD - Air Gun Designs
DW - Deadlywind
RPG - Rouge Paintball (The Mag Smith)
Tuna - Tunaman

[slade]

so the "body" column is the bodies the rail is compatible with?

logic had the alpha rail, and maybe another.

for frames:

logic has 3 versions of mech frames and 1 electro frame. www.logicpaintball.com

theres the RPG chimera frame, intelliframe, y-grip, z-grip, benchmark frame, medusa (sp?) frame, dye frame, and origional agd frames.

theres the karta and dallara dimpled and undimpled, and two versions of chord bodies. you need the it body and exile body. theres too many AGD bodies for me to list.

theres the (two) RPG and CCM feednecks, i think there may be a bart parts feedneck.

theres other misc accessories like the snatch grip.

[punkncat]

RTP rail went with the ULE and the Emag SS bodies. It did have the slot for the twistlock.

Logic made two different rails. One was AM/MM and the V2 was RTP. I know the "classic" rail had the twistlock spot so it would take all bodies accordingly. I am unsure about that on the RTP version.

Considering that aside from the classic RT all other mechanical frames are designed to retrofit, I think "All" pretty much sums it up.
..but if you are going to get into it Powerlyte made a 2x classic RT frame, and a 1x "all" frame.

This is a good idea. It should be stickied maybe in the tech help forum or something when completed.

[punkncat]

Spelled correctly, its R-o-g-u-e.

Oh yeah? How would YOU know anyway?!?

[mobsterboy]

The mag smith and rogue are in no way connected. The mag smith is just a shop that sells products. Rogue is a custom manufacturer that sells his products to The Mag Smith.
Thats like affiliating hotwheels and walmart just because they sell the cars

[Resurection]

Spelled correctly, its R-o-g-u-e.

Hey, it was early on a Sunday morning, and besides... i thought rouge was your color?

[Pyroboy597]

When I first read the title.. I thought to myself... ::Mag... + Matrix... = ::

Then I came in to see the wrong kind of mag matrix

Anyway... good idea, this should be stickied in like an FAQ thread in the Tech Section,

[Resurection]

When I first read the title.. I thought to myself... ::Mag... + Matrix... = ::

Then I came in to see the wrong kind of mag matrix

Anyway... good idea, this should be stickied in like an FAQ thread in the Tech Section,

Sorry to get you hyped up. I am working on the RAILs table now and will move on to the rest of the primary parts soon.

[Tunaman]

Hey, it was early on a Sunday morning, and besides... i thought rouge was your color?

It is his favorite color...of his lipstick!

[Resurection]

Check www.themagsmith.com/forums .

You will find a weight list there. Ive been trying to set something like this up myself, just no time at the moment.

Also, double-check the weight you have for the ULE Dallara. I just weighed one, and it comes up 2.8 oz.

I will update table, I was just going by the posted text on their website (ULE milling removes approx. 1.6oz" and I am SURE that the measurements are not precise or neccessarily duplicted in every one. Thanks for the update.

[GT]

Guys I have lots of weights pumped into excell. I just need access to a website that will actually sticky the data. PBN and AO both did not sticky my "how to build a mag" thread. A lot of work for nothing. I also have an article on how to switch regs and tanks. Just need a place for the devine knowledge.

[Automaggot68]

The mag smith and rogue are in no way connected. The mag smith is just a shop that sells products. Rogue is a custom manufacturer that sells his products to The Mag Smith.
Thats like affiliating hotwheels and walmart just because they sell the cars

You're kidding right?
They're the same person, everyone knows that.

[Resurection]

A stock AM/MM rail weighs ~4.7 oz.(The ones with the additional foregrip mounting holes weigh 4.6)

4.7-1.6= 3.1 oz.(4.6-1.6= 3 oz.)

At 2.8 oz., the ULE Dallaras I have here are the lightest Colin has done.

I was going off what their website stated:

base 4.2-1.6 = 2.6oz
So I guess the 'sculpted' part took 0.5 off already.

Thanks for the stock AM/MM rail data!

[Resurection]

His estimate is an approximation. Mine is straight off the scale. I can put one on the scale here and take a pic for you, if that would help your matrix.

I believe you, I already changed the matrix to include your weight from the first post. I was estimating the ULE rail weight from his measurement. I am sure that anything non-AGD will likely be .1 or so up down depending on the runs since they are not as mass produced.

So Rogue and MagSmith aren't the same person? Who'da thunk that?

[bentothejam1n]

So Rogue and MagSmith aren't the same person? Who'da thunk that?

Correct me if I'm wrong but Rogue is only putting out the product while the website sells them. Rogue is working on his own website