Its new marker time

[Pha|anx]

Zero maintenance. And I do mean zero. Not AGD zero, where they actually mean hours tuning the damned LVL X and ULT, I mean for real zero.

Here here!

After going from a Matrix with a bolt with numerous orings... To one with--- NONE! Maintenance never looked so easy.

I would look at 04/03 Vikings and maybe 05-S/06 Cyborgs.






/Ryan, you don't like 04s?

[GT]

Not AGD zero, where they actually mean hours tuning the damned LVL X and ULT, I mean for real zero.

Who spends hours tunning either of those, especially a dealer?



Lo,
the irony of your post is that the most durable markers are also the ones that are a pain to find parts for locally and are no longer in production. Let that stir around in your barin for a while. I have ownes two vikings and both were great however, since I am a one gun man now I prefer my emag. Take a look at the promaster. I really likes my BKO while my viking was getting prettied up, I can only imagine how good that gun is.

I have been pretty fortunate to own very few guns that were utter junk.

[slade]

personally id recommend getting a new screw for your proto, and sending the reg back to dye. but it looks like you probably want a new gun anyway. for low maintenance get a viking, many people like them but personally i havent really. id probably go with a cyborg, but they may require a bit more maintenance.

[personman]

Who spends hours tunning either of those, especially a dealer?

Haha yeah I set mine up in about 15 minutes and havent touched them in over a year

[RRfireblade]

Seems to me the irony of his post is that he needs a marker that comes either with higher grade screws or a properly sized , decent quality set of allen wrenches.

Perhaps also a tube a low/med strength thread locker.

[Lohman446]

I don't have a good source for new Vikings. At this point I am going to throw out a few offers to companies and see what one wants to work with me the most . My Proto today developed a leak where the reg "swivel" piece connects, had to take it apart and replace those o-rings. A minor thing but it just annoyed me at the time. Moreso because I picked up my backup mag, went and played, and found after 30 balls or so that I had neglected to fill the air tank. It might be that I am considering a new marker anyways and these things will now begin to annoy me more. I have a few good local offers for the Proto, considering I just bought the blue board for it and am including it I don't see it being that much of a problem to unload. Considering the price I paid for it, and how little value it has lost in that price over the year I have basically used it for a year for very very little $$. If I can continue to turn equipment over every year I will never take the big hit on any individual piece.

Hehe... yeh, I may from time to time grab an allen wrench that is good enough when I'm in a hurry. I make no justification for it. My markers are abused, often neglected... Its how it is, I have simply decided I simply don't care if they loose a bit more value, I'm not going to spend hours doing maintenance. Its why I change out markers every year, and tanks every year.

[CoolHand]

. . . . . /Ryan, you don't like 04s?

I'm a wire detent man. No rollback (ever), slightly uglier (which is a plus to me, lol, I love ugly things), and they are cheaper.

GT - I have tuned a great many LVL X's and ULT's in my time, and they are a PITA. Not so much that it is difficult, but rather that the ENTIRE marker has to come apart to adjust it, then reassemble, test, disassemble completely, readjust, reassemble, test, etc, etc, etc.

It takes so long, and a lot of air to tune one in if it's not pretty damned close when it shows up. That, and I never get to see one that's pretty close to working right.

It's to the point that I just don't even mess with them anymore.

Loh - Buy a used one. Super cheap (like sub $500 cheap), and it will run forever (even if it's already shot a million shots). One need not always buy new to get a "new" gun.

[slade]

It takes so long, and a lot of air to tune one in if it's not pretty damned close when it shows up. That, and I never get to see one that's pretty close to working right.

its really not too bad if you have a macro fitting or quick disconnect. if you have to take a fitting off and then put teflon back on, it becomes a pain.

[slade]

If I can continue to turn equipment over every year I will never take the big hit on any individual piece.

or, you can be the one that gets the equipment from someone who took a big hit on it.

[REDRT]

GT - I have tuned a great many LVL X's and ULT's in my time, and they are a PITA. Not so much that it is difficult, but rather that the ENTIRE marker has to come apart to adjust it, then reassemble, test, disassemble completely, readjust, reassemble, test, etc, etc, etc.

It takes so long, and a lot of air to tune one in if it's not pretty damned close when it shows up. That, and I never get to see one that's pretty close to working right.

It's to the point that I just don't even mess with them anymore.

That why I fill more than one tank if I'm tuning at a remote location like home. Otherwise I just do it at the store. Goes pretty quick using a proconnect off the valve also. Patients is a virtu.

[SpitFire1299]

buy an angel led and pimp it out. lol.

[onedude36]

I say 06 borg. Maybe thats because I want one.

[jenarelJAM]

I just got an 04 viking, and wow. I'm expecting it to outlive me. I haven't shot it with paint yet(waiting for fittings and rail) but I'm expecting it to be smooth as butter. Everything is preset by the guy who sold it to me, and everything is really clean. there are no o-rings on the bolt(which can be pulled out in a second), and it looks like it will take a beating. I like low maintenence guns too. Viking was my choice.

[BD_Paintball]

well if you want to stay in the matrix family i would get the pm6. i have a pm5 and love it, and my brother is getting a crazy good deal on a bnib pm6. i have shot alot of markers in the past and the matrix feels the best and performs great as you know with the pm5. get the pm6!!!! evil's gun looks nasty so i personally would not get that.

[Arstron]

Look into the new Freestyles, FS-8, they get around 1300 shots per 68/4500 stock, come with predator lite code, dont take a lot to maintain, they are quiet and small. You do have to have a little bit of common sence to ballance the regs, but thats the biggest problem with the freestyles. I love my 04 and will more then likely be picking up a new fs-8 latter this year.