Up Grade ??

[Automag PR]

Hello i'm new to this forum:

I live in P.R. and played paintball for years , stop playing and back at it agian.
I have an Automag, with a smartmag valve, reacter kit, tear drop barrel, powerfeed,a titanium bolt and complete splash kit and compreed air.

I was looking at all the new up grades and just wanted to know the honest opinoin:

Ultra Light weight trigger pull and the lvl 10 superbolt.

And the diffrens between the X-Value and the smartmag value other than weight.

Thanks you guys:
Miguel

[RoamingStorm]

smart valve? havent geard of it.

[behemoth]

First off, Welcome to AO.

I'm here to say hey, because you've done a good job on your first post.
- Unlike most that post here


The X-Valve is an RT vavle, offering a reactive trigger.

The ULT can come with them, and will greatly lighten the weight of the trigger pull.

Level 10, aka LX comes stock with all Xvalves, and will, like it says, 'stop the chops'

So, with the Xvalve you'll save Weight, Increase BPS, and Eliminate Chopping.

[FinchMan]

Smart-valve, pretty much a valve that has a burst chamber with increased volume. This lowers the operating pressure of the valve but it actually lowers efficiency. Pretty much just makes the gun a tad quieter, but thats it. It can run on co2

X-valve: Super fast recharging valve, reactive trigger, definately the best mag valve. can only be run on Compressed air.

lvl10: very nice, comes stock with the x-valve. it prevents all chops once it's tuned correctly. There's a video out on the internet of the lvl10 bouncing off of a tongue placed in the breach. definately a worthy upgrade.

ULT kit: originally designed to reduce the reactive trigger effect and reduce the trigger pull of the RT valve (x-valve is the same design). This is more just personal preference, and it might not work correctly in your smart-valve.



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[Automag PR]

Thanks all you guys for the info. I'll just have to see what up -grades are compatible and i'll get the best performace with my smart mag. Or what do you guy already haveing some of those parte recomend.

Miguel

[Walrus]

I think some of the guys have already stated this, but welcom to AO.

They have also already explained what an X-Valve is and a Level 10 and a Ultra Light Trigger. What no one has done yet is explain what the difference is between those and your current setup.

You state that you are using a SmartMag valve (first off props for still having one. I was a Magic Box Valve owner until about a month ago when I sold it). This valve is suppose to "increase your range" by having an internally milled/larger air dump chamber. It is basically the later version of a Magic Box mod, but it was internal instead of having a box on the side of your valve. Honestly, I have had a Magic Box valve, X-Valve, and Classic Valve mags and they all were great. If you are looking to increase your rate of fire, then the X-Valve is the way to go.

The level 10 is a great mod because it will help to eliminate chops. Honestly, I have never put on on a SmartMag or a Magic Box Mag. It will help you eliminate chops, but in return you may want to try to fire faster since you don't have to worry about chops. Now you have to hope that your SmartMag valve can keep up with you. I am sure that it probably could, so this may be a recommended upgrade. (Oh, and you have a Titanium bolt?! I would like to see a picture of that! Most are made of Stainless Steel, and if you do have a Ti bolt, would you want to sell it?)

The Ultra Light Trigger mod is a drop in unit for your existing SmartMag on/off (to replace your entire on/off, which I think you said you have a reactor in there). There would be difficulties with this because the ULT is best used on X-Valves and other RT based vavles. I am not saying that it will not work, but you may have trouble getting it to work. Your Reactor on/off system should be similar, but I am sure the ULT offers a lighter trigger pull.

Honestly, if you are looking to upgrade to possibly an X-Valve, Level10, and ULT, then you may just want to purchase a new marker all together because of the cost. If you don't care about the cost and love your classic and want to keep it going then I would get just those pieces you want and upgrade from there. I do have a classic valve that has a level 10 and a ULT on it. It performs fine, but it takes some getting used to and it took time to get setup properly. Good luck and keep asking questions. It is the best way to get the information you seek!

[Automag PR]

Hello Walrus:

Thanks for clearing that out for me. I'll Try to get the pic of the tn bolt for you ASAP. I'm planing to keep my smartparts value as i have came to one with it lol. I really thinking about the lvl 10 as to get alittle bit more speed.

And can you give me more info on the classic valve that has a level 10 and the before and after performces.

Miguel

[Automag PR]

So bascaly with the lvl 10 will i get better proformce as to more shoots , better economy on air, and overal performce ect. Or is what i have right know pretty much the same.

Miguel

[behemoth]

lvl 10 actually decreases efficency slightly, but it'll eliminate chopping.

ULT will decrease reactivness of the trigger, and make it lighter to pull.

[Walrus]

I think behemoth covered it. As far as a before and after, well it is all up to an individual really. I had used two other classic valved level 7 Mags (one was my Magic Box Mag) and never had a problem with chops. I loaned one of these same Mags to my best friend so he wouldn't have to rent and he chopped all day. (The good part was he still loved the gun and had a blast.) I think it is up to the operator to learn how to use the trigger effectively. I now have a Micromag with a classic valve and level 10 on it. It helps elinate those times where a ball isn't all the way in the breech and a level 7 would just chop it where a level 10 just bounces off. I have even tested out the level 10 in my Micro by putting my finger in it and it works great. I would never think of doing anything like that with a level 7 or any other marker that doesn't have an anti-chop device. (Nor am I recommending that people go around putting their fingers inside the breech of their or anyone else's markers and pulling the trigger.)

I would say it is one of the best upgrades you can get, but it will use a little more air. Overall it should shoot exactly the same as your existing setup, but you wouldn't be chopping balls if you ever did. A word of advice if you do get a level 10. Try your hardest to set it up to use the lightest spring. I only say this because of the way your SmartValve is suppose to work. The lighter spring will allow for more of the air to be release from the enlarged air chamber. This will help in actually getting the valve to do what it was suppose to!

Side Note: If you already like your trigger pull, then don't do a ULT especially since you want to keep your SmartMag valve.