are pump guns more accurate?

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  • nycityinsomniac
    Registered User
    • Mar 2006
    • 93

    #1

    are pump guns more accurate?

    what is so good about phantoms?
    can they really compete against semi autos?
  • nycityinsomniac
    Registered User
    • Mar 2006
    • 93

    #2
    is it better to convert an autococker to a pump or just buy a nice phantom?

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    • FlawleZ
      Xmodded Karta Emag=sold ;(
      • May 2004
      • 824

      #3
      Originally posted by nycityinsomniac
      is it better to convert an autococker to a pump or just buy a nice phantom?
      Its personal preference. I think most will tell you here that the Phantom would be the better choice if you're solely looking for pump play with your gun. The Autococker is nice because it can be converted in a few minutes from pump to semi with the pump kit.

      And you can't compare pumps to semis. Some semis are almost as slow as pumps and others do well over 30 BPS. In the end, the player is the most important part by any means, but when it comes down to it, firepower is definitely prevalent in almost all situations nowadays.

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      • Pyrate Jim
        Shi Tamajutsu Ka
        • May 2002
        • 1052

        #4
        I play with a pump against semi's all the time, rec and tourney.

        The only advantage a semi has over a pump is ROF. However, playing at a disadvantage is what will make you into a better player. Just like a runner will use leg weights to strengthen his muscles, using a pump will strengthen your playing skills.

        So it's not the marker, it's the guy using it.
        CT Co-ordinator, Paintball Marshals

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #5
          No, a pump marker is not inherently more accurate than a semi.

          Most pump players, however, take the time to be more accurate.
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • neppo1345
            I Will Eat Your Children..
            • Oct 2005
            • 1913

            #6
            I play with my phantom against semis as well. Everyone looks at me weird until they're walking off the field.

            With the autotrigger I can still shoot fast enough to lay down cover for my team if need be.

            as the Pyrate said above. If you're looking for occasional pump play, convert a cocker.

            Edit: As Loh said, pumpers usually take the time to AIM instead of walking paint on target.

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            • paullus99
              Knight Stalker
              • Apr 2004
              • 293

              #7
              CCM makes some really good pumps. At our Pump Day a couple of weekends ago, one really good player (speedballer who loves to play pump) was able to use the Autotrigger feature to great effectiveness....he took 1st Place in our One-on-One.

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              • JOESPUD27
                Merc
                • Jul 2005
                • 262

                #8
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                No, a pump marker is not inherently more accurate than a semi.

                Most pump players, however, take the time to be more accurate.
                I agree. Pumps can definantly compete. I might have a Phantom VSC with t-stock FS/FT shortly. PM Me if you're interested...

                Jay

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                • craltal
                  MCB, baby...
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1452

                  #9
                  One major difference is that a sniper (the official name for a pump 'cocker) will normally be heavier than a similarly setup phantom. It's also a bit difficult to find stock class feed tubes for center-feed cocker bodies. There's also the Nelson style internals vs. Sheridan style, etc...

                  basically, it all comes down to preference, what you already have, and are willing to spend. Unless you are playing professional level paintball, you shouldn't find yourself too greatly outgunned.

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                  • Spinnygrass
                    BEO-Altec-Russell
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 36

                    #10

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                    • Duzzy
                      Mentally confused, wanders

                      • Apr 2004
                      • 940

                      #11
                      Just an FYI you can edit your original post, you don't have to make 2 or 3.

                      As for a Sniper over a Phantom it is all preference. Some people like the feel of a Sheridan (KPs, Snipers, Palmers, other assorted brass etc.) and some people like the feel of Nelsons (Phantoms, Carters, 007s etc.).

                      Both usually require tuning for optimum performance, although I think that Nelsons are better on 12 grams in the long run.

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                      • hobbesTZ
                        :dodgy:
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 2219

                        #12
                        The problem with Snipers is that it's hard to balance the springs, and you're pneumatic setup would probably be differant from your pump setup so it's not necessarily a breeze to switch between them. Phantoms can be had cheap enough as it is. A lot of people have old Sheridans that still work very well, but the Phantom/Sniper is the best choice for being able to use barrel kits, it's a pain in the *** when your pain rolls out the barrel.

                        I personally like my Sterling. I don't mind that it's hard to find barrels for in that the pump stroke is very nice and it just suits me well.

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                        • SCpoloRicker
                          HA HA I'm custom!!1
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4375

                          #13
                          Yes. Yes they do.
                          God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                          • Carbon Blue
                            Registered User

                            • Apr 2003
                            • 1103

                            #14
                            watched a tourney with team blowfish i believe and they completely rolled a team full of DM5s with their pumps.
                            :headbang: AGD :headbang:

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                            • Maghog
                              Mad Marker Maker

                              • Jun 2001
                              • 681

                              #15
                              Sterlings rule!

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