why do people complain about guns being GAS HOGS?

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  • Miscue
    Super Moderator

    • Oct 2000
    • 7105

    #16
    Efficiency has to do with the marker's design, not whether or not it has low/high pressure input. There are low pressure markers notorious for inefficiency, and high pressure markers that have good efficiency. At best, you can say that low pressure may be the side-effect of a good design... but LP by itself does not imply good design or efficiency.

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    • peewee
      AGD,ICD,CCM & CCI (Gunho!)
      • Mar 2004
      • 1400

      #17
      In some locations where I play the nearest place to get fills in 80+ miles away. For tourney stuff I want enough to be able to finish a game a halo & three pods usually.
      :hail: AGD :hail: CCI :hail:

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      • doc_Zox
        Team Dead by Dawn
        • Jun 2003
        • 723

        #18
        at an MXS final battle last fall, i carried a case onto the field

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        • Cow hunter
          300fps=204.54mph
          • Aug 2005
          • 1521

          #19
          Originally posted by Miscue
          Efficiency has to do with the marker's design, not whether or not it has low/high pressure input. There are low pressure markers notorious for inefficiency, and high pressure markers that have good efficiency. At best, you can say that low pressure may be the side-effect of a good design... but LP by itself does not imply good design or efficiency.
          examples of a HP gun bieng good efficienccy?

          IMO the most efficent gun are AKA's, its possible to get almost a case or more on one 68/45

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          • quasimorte
            WWMWD
            • Mar 2006
            • 173

            #20
            If it really is a problem just grab a 30CF 3000 psi scuba tank and strap it to your back for the game :).

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            • Blazestorm
              I win
              • Feb 2002
              • 3523

              #21
              Because some people actually play tournaments that require them to shoot more then a hopper of paint.

              AKA, XPSL in Corona, Most games I was only shooting 2-3 pods, but I had 7 on my back. One game I shot all 7... and was on half a hopper when we timed out...



              Ya I look fat (far right)



              But thas ok :)



              far left... 8 pods >_<
              Last edited by Blazestorm; 04-02-2006, 04:21 AM.
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              • sniper1rfa
                (Not a Wang Force member.)
                • Aug 2001
                • 1107

                #22
                Scenarios.

                I use an 88/45 on a fairly efficient cocker for scenarios, since the fill lines are very long and i play fast and hard all day.

                I carry three pods and a halo, but we play team paint, and have a huge cooler full of fresh pods when we need them, so i really have an infinite amount of paint. *shrug*


                The real question is - why dont you worry about it? An efficient gun is a gun that is running very well - don't you want your equipment to be running very well?
                "The Fine Print: Discontinue use if your eyeballs suddenly get way smaller."

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                • nicad
                  wannabe newbe
                  • May 2002
                  • 992

                  #23
                  generic quote: "I can play a full game on a 68/45 and still have air left."

                  I say: "switch to a 45/45 tank. Its a smaller target and lighter."
                  oops you might no longer get a full game and have air left.
                  How about gun designs that are efficient enough to get 1300 full shots from a 45/45?
                  It is not a matter of all day air, it is a matter of having a smaller ligter target attached to your marker.

                  thats my thoughts. :)

                  out!
                  ColinMoritz

                  Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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                  • 68magOwner
                    Registered User
                    • May 2003
                    • 3475

                    #24
                    because people like to use 45/45 tanks, and, for rec play, it dosent really matter, but, at tournaments and whatnot, air fill lines can occasionaly get kinda long and if you have back to back games, you could be shooting yourself in the foot by having a very inefficient marker.

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                    • benzy2
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 546

                      #25
                      I play a bit of outlaw ball at a neighbors woods. I only have a 3000 tank which together doesnt go good for inefficient guns. Also the local shop only fills co2. It takes a good hour to drive to the nearest shop that fills hpa. When playing on a nice field it doesnt matter much but when playing around home for a day its about as important as anything.
                      Why doesnt anything work for me.

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                      • warpig13
                        Like a Boss
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 883

                        #26
                        when your at a scenario, and your using a "gas hog", it requires constant walking off the field and refilling. but it really doesnt matter for rec play.

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                        • thefool
                          resident idiot
                          • May 2005
                          • 671

                          #27
                          yeah basically it makes you have one less thing to worry about.
                          Lets you have a smaller tank
                          balences the gun better becasue of it
                          lets you not stand in line.

                          and its another thing for companies to brag about.

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                          • cowboy_00
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 229

                            #28
                            Scenario

                            If your playing Scenario and you have been doing it for a while and realize that carrying a 2lb rock on the bottom of your gun is tiresome, then your probably gonna run remote.

                            In which case just get a big 92 or 114 and not have to worry for 2-3 cases on almost any gun i think.

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                            • Arstron
                              fusionowners.org

                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2347

                              #29
                              Originally posted by nicad
                              generic quote: "I can play a full game on a 68/45 and still have air left."

                              I say: "switch to a 45/45 tank. Its a smaller target and lighter."
                              oops you might no longer get a full game and have air left.
                              How about gun designs that are efficient enough to get 1300 full shots from a 45/45?
                              It is not a matter of all day air, it is a matter of having a smaller ligter target attached to your marker.

                              thats my thoughts. :)

                              out!
                              Dont the new freestyles (FS-8) get close to that kind of shots per tank? I read that the FS-8 stock is supposed to get 1300 shots off of a 68/4500 and with the HR-2 bolt upgrade its supposed to get around 1500 shots on the same tank.

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