Ricochet Apache LED

[Vex]

I ordered an Apache because I'd like to take some of the weight off of my gun (I've got an Egg II currently).
I was just wondering what those who own them think of them.

Feel free to list any pros/cons.

[ahellers]

you know its odd i dont think anyone knows what the real bps on them is. i think i rember on actionvillage it said it was 17bps, i know i saw some where else it was 15 or 16 and on the box it said 19. i dont really belive it is 19 as there is no force feed. it doesnt use eyes but it has (i dont know what its called) the little strip sensor thingy (it stops feeding when its depressed by a ball). that seems to work reall well because it doesnt matter what kind of paint you use and it shouldnt matter if it gets dirty. hoever when you get down to the last 10-12 balls it slows down more then other loaders (the arms on the agitator are rigid and move pretty fast makeing the balls bouce around and not go in the feed tube). however its a decent price and the feed rate is fairly consistent when it still has a few balls left in it. oh and the feed tube sucks, its the kind that hase two o rings on it.
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[Vex]

But is the feedneck weak at all, or are the o-rings just more of an annoyance?
I've got a Sub-Zero clamping feedneck, so I'm not worried about fit.

[VFX_Fenix]

I can't speak on the Apache, however I've yet to run into any major problems with breakage of any sort with my Ric 2K or 2KX shells in the 5 years or so I've had one. About the only problem with the Ric line of hoppers I've found is the "Deflection Technology" they use has skipped paint off the loader right into my lense. I will say that if you have a clamping feed neck you'll probably just want to take the O-Rings off, its been my experience that the feed neck just cuts them when tightend.

[RoadDawg]

Apaches aren't bad at all.

Pro's
Fast (not sure on bps but it's fast enough for my style)
Cust service is great
light weight
snug battery holder
primer button incase one is stuck behind the propeller
Fits great on a warp setup

Cons
too snug of battery holder (feel like I'm going to snap it)
A little noisy but when it's moving your probably shooting
Orings break easily, have yet to try it w/ my sub zero neck as I have yet to play since I got it.

[lather]

Rico Apaches are underrated imo. Very light and much more solidly built than an Eggy and from my experience with the new motor and paddle design on the 05 Ricos, at least as fast or even a bit faster than my Egg with Z board.


The only real flaw to them is the oring fit to feedneck, but the Rico's neck itself is strong.

AV has them for $49.95 new occasionaly which to me is the best price/performance loader around.

[Mind'sEye]

The Apache is an excellent agitating hopper. They're fast, lightweight and reasonably durable. On the downside they have a high profile (compared to Halo B) and the fast agitating motor is a bit noisy. For a lightweight hopper, I'd say you made a good choice.

[Carbon Blue]

Ive got an apache and I love it to death!! Definitely no other loader Id prefer over it. Ive used halos, egg2's, and zboarded viewloaders. Though the forcefeed on the halos are nice I never seem to run into a problem with the apache not feeding consistently. Ive got an Xvalved mag and it has no problems keeping up with the ULT setup. The shells are built strong and customer service is great and i mean GREAT!!! The shells arent brittle like the egg and the battery compartment is nice and sturdy. Ive been playing for a full year with it with absolutely no problems. The only upgrade I have done to it is an 05 motor which supposedly increases bps to 20bps. I just know that it has zero problems keeping up with my mag. Another thing I love about this loader is that it is LIGHT!! Wayyyyy lighter and stronger than any egg I have seen and used. This makes the halo look like a boulder when compared in terms of weight, but some prefer the force feed and eyes or sound activation systems, but i prefer to keep things simple.

[buzzboy]

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[Indi86]

I was playing out in the woods and took a shot right into the lcd screen of my apache. I emailed Richochet about it and they said send it in and they would give me a new one. About a week later I get a brand new apache and blank warrenty card in the mail.

[cowboy_00]

Quick question:

I have heard from a few people that apaches really dont seem to work well with warps, that they dont feed as well and such.

is this all BS or do they really work better vert?

any answers would help as im looking to replace my revvy

[buzzboy]

Forgot to say that IMHO the bend sensor sux. A hopper with eyes is way better. When the sensor bent the hopper would load but sometimes I would have to shake the hopper to get a the sensor to activate. I will never get another ricochet hopper. Many people like them. I liked the looks. The defelction actually did work sometimes but the not feeding was not worth it. Not on my warp at least. On my friends gun it performed perfectly, loading a ball everytime.

[Cow hunter]

just today broke BOTH my friends apache feednecks in his viking. it seems those crappily placed O-rings make it so it cant be tight, so i kept tightening, until it broke.....

[skriptal]

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OLD, 05 Apaches are MUCH better than the 04s.

[RoadDawg]

Quick question:

I have heard from a few people that apaches really dont seem to work well with warps, that they dont feed as well and such.

is this all BS or do they really work better vert?

any answers would help as im looking to replace my revvy

Best hopper IMO for a warp is a ricochet. For one you don't need to mod the shells to make a snug fit.

They work up to 45 degrees really well. Plus w/ the Apache model you can hit the primer button and it will push the balls in the feed cup down the hole at a really good side angle as long as there isn't plenty of paint in the hopper. Plus I don't know your style of play but I do lots of snap shots and I don't do 20 ball strings so it isn't a issue for me. However with other players it might be.

The shell designs have kept several gog shots from smacking my lens. Instead it would actually angle them over my head and kept me in the game.

The bend sensor is decent but I don't think it is any better then eyes. Both have their pluses and minuses. Case in point, the bend sensor doesn't discriminate w/ colors of paint. It also keeps working when a ball bursts in your feedneck. All the eye hoppers I've had had trouble with that. However the bend sensor may "miss" a ball and create gaps. Which if you are a warp user might cause a problem but those are very far and few between.