Is anyone else tempted to buy an ION?

[BigEvil]

Temptation ?

I spit out my coffee when I saw that one.

Priceless.

[buzzboy]

I don't see why more people own ions.. Even stock they shoot great. I mean they do come stock with eyes and some ramping thingy. I have a few freinds that got them as low budget Speedball guns and they perform great. With just a new trigger I have shot one up pretty darn fast. And they're not just fast. They also have little kick and shoot very smooth. At one point I almost bought one when I was looking for a new gun and the ONLY reason I opted out is because I got a good trade.

It seems as though many people have problems with the QC. I have seen/played with/played agianst/talked to many people with ions and nobody has had a single problem eccept that one of my teamates got his and the Internal air line wasn't pushed all the way into the fitting.

[Lohman446]

Why are so many people hating on Ions. Even stock they shoot great. I mean they do come stock with eyes and some ramping thingy. I have a few freinds that got them as low budget Speedball guns and they perform great. With just a new trigger I have shot one up pretty darn fast. And they're not just fast. They also have little kick and shoot very smooth. At one point I almost bought one when I was looking for a new gun and the ONLY reason I opted out is because I got a good trade.

And everybody hates the QC. I have seen/played with/played agianst/talked to many people with ions and nobody has had a single problem eccept that one of my teamates got his and the Internal air line wasn't pushed all the way into the fitting.

Show me this alleged "hate"? I really don't see it. As to the QC issues - need I get out my list of SP products I have bought and the problems I have had out of hte box with considerably more than half of them? And I support SP in most of these dicussions. Lax QC with them is part of life, at least for some of us. Funny that you bring up the hate of QC though, I don't see that anywhere here. Theres a jump to defensiveness it seems on issues that aren't even being discussed here.

[buzzboy]

The hate I describe isn't as much of a real hate but, ah nevermind. I, well I don't know. It just seems as though a lot of....Oh nrvm. I'm editing my post.

[cledford]

[Lohman446]

The PM5s were limited somewhere in the low 20s due to solenoid issues - I would guess realistically the Ions are very close to the same. Aside from ease of maintenance (I'm sorry I really have a problem with those little microlines) there is little question an Ion is capable for play today. Besides, with a ramping cap of 15BPS and very few if any people pulling beyond that, the Ion is fine at a cap of 17. I played for a few months competetively with an Ion against some pretty healthy competition, and a lot of people still do.

It shoots as fast (ok, might be a theoretical cap of 17 vs 22? but both don't attain it)
It has a proactive anti-chop system
It shoots as accurately
Its more efficient than some
It has all currently legal shooting modes (PSP and NPPL)
It's as light as them.
It has a similar profile.

The maintenance issue, if you want to make one of it, is nothing that will have to do with competing on field. The cosmetics have nothing to do with performance on field.

[person1]

I just bought one, with a new trigger and a QEV. For only $240 it wasnt bad. The only other thing im gonna do is toss a barrel on it. I'll prolly just use it while im buildgin my mag, then switch it to a backup/loaner after its done. But still i cant wait for it to ship, i love packages

[slade]

i love packages

keep that to yourself, man...

[minimag03]

i love packages

[person1]

keep that to yourself, man...

Kids these days all have dirty minds......

[vonort]

Personally I would get a SF Trilogy before I bought an ION..


then again I still play speedball with a pump.

[Ishootyouinthewoods]

Last Castle my cocker went down and I ran w/ my teamates Ion. I belive the only upgrade was a trigger frame. In the end I just didn't like it. I thought the balance was off, and the trigger was too sensitive. I know that it is suppose to be like that but I prefer a crisp pull everytime. Then again considering the price there and what it is capable of, if it floats you boat, why not?

[jenarelJAM]

I think alot of marker selection is feel. When someone used to playing with a $600+ marker picks up an Ion, the answer will often be "it feels cheap." Most $600+ markers will all be able to shoot over 15 bps(which is the legal cap now, so faster doesn't really matter, unless you just like showing off), and they will all be able to get fairly good consistency over the chrono. Once you hit +-5 fps, you need to start worrying about sifting your paint, looking for ones with dimples to throw away .

I like my viking because on the field, If I get a chop(which I shouldn't, eyes), I can take my bolt out, just pull it out by itself, and run a squeegie through the top bore of the gun, through the breach, and out the barrel, before putting the bolt back in with a snap.

Its things like this that give people their own preferences.

Plus... even if you take your $200 Ion and add $500 to it, It's still an Ion, and to a lot of people, that's all the excuse they need.

I'd go to several shops and just find the marker that you like best. Chances are you can get it for a good price, or find an older model that's similar for cheaper.

[person1]

I don't plan on putting alot of upgrades on it, just toss on a reg i have lying around a barrel and a new trigger. Im not really worried about balance, never really cared about that with whatever setup i had. Im kinda worried it will feel cheap though, im used to shooting angels, mags, etc. I don't care if people give me crap for it, the gun doesnt make the player. I dunno, im excited to get it and see how it is, if worst comes to worst ill just use it as a backup, because the re-sale on these things are ridiculously bad