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  • thefool
    resident idiot
    • May 2005
    • 671

    #1

    Attractive Aspects

    What do you look for when buying a gun, ecpecially something brand new

    Closed vs Open bolt
    looks
    kick
    wieght
    "uniqueness"
    speed
    electro vs mech

    just some ideas please give me some feedback
  • tippmannsniper-
    dont have a tipman, really
    • Jun 2004
    • 575

    #2
    something that work all the time for the most part.looks r a plus
    E2 VF-TACTICAL,shocktech pnues and beavertail,tactical kaner kit,shocktech supafly,shocktech mini drop and on/off ,all black :ninja: :ninja:

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    • jenarelJAM
      Club Coordinator
      • Dec 2004
      • 1611

      #3
      #1 thing is reliability
      I have a stock black ULE emag, and a black unmilled 04 viking
      Both should last forever without maintenence

      #2 is perks
      for instance, I LOVE the dry-firing aspect of turning the bolt around with the viking, and I like the whole mech/e/hybrid on my emag

      #Dead last is looks
      I hate timmies. I'm sure they're perfectly good markers, but I can't stand that basically 50% of the price is because of the milling and anodizing. Same thing with DM's, although I actually like those for some reason...
      Also, I'm not dense, a pretty gun is better than the same gun but boring, I just don't see myself putting $500 into getting my viking milled and anno'd when the gun was around that when I bought it.
      you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
      :shooting: :cuss:

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      • buzzboy
        Emo grass cuts inself
        • Mar 2005
        • 1322

        #4
        I personally look at in this order:

        Price
        Feel Of Shooting(trigger etc)
        Chopping
        The ability to shoot a string and have it be on target(not nessassarly fast but accurate and able to get like 10 bps strings
        Feel Of Shooting(kick, sound etc)
        Durrability
        Ease of use

        I also don't know where to put in like weight/looks/upragdability. Those factors change depending on what I would want the gun to do. My first Pro/Carbine fulfilled most of these very well. Then the BKO had high points and low points and now my Mini has almost every nitch filled

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        • SpitFire1299
          :P
          • Jun 2004
          • 1765

          #5
          #1-Price
          #2-damaged? scratched? stripped screws?
          #3-Reliabilty
          #4-Comfort
          #5-upgrades.

          Thats about it.. weight doesnt matter if its comfortable really.

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          • Godofthelost
            I want an o4 Viking!
            • Mar 2006
            • 10

            #6
            I've never really thought about this..

            1 - Reliability; If a gun doesn't work close to the same way, every day, it can get on my nerves. I try and look at guns that are KNOWN to work well.

            2 - Ease of use; This doesn't apply in all cases, but ease of use is also a plus. I like to know that on days when I'm lazy all i have to do is air up and maybe hit a few buttons/switches.

            3 - Tinkerability - I know, not *really* a word, but I love a gun i can fiddle with and tune when I get bored, or the marker breaks. It's nice to know I can fix something mechanical and not have to send it in.

            4 - Upgradeableness - I LOVE guns I can pour my money in to, and make it my own. Wether it be from custom milling to a trigger to grip panels, I love knowing my gun is mine.

            5 - Looks - Last on the list, just because looks are only semi important to me. I do like the looks of some intimidators, and i LOVE the look of the shocker, but the performance and reliability aren't great. Besides, why get a gun for 750 and have it only get 800 shots off a 68/45?


            The thing that REALLY takes the cake though is efficiency. I LOVE efficient guns, with a fiery, burning passion. So, go AKA markers.

            -Steve

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            • Dye Angel Guy
              University of Dubuque
              • Feb 2003
              • 929

              #7
              1. Trigger feel (Matrix hate, Emag & Angel love)

              2. Gun size and if it fits the style in which I hold my guns (Timmies too long, Ion too small)

              3. Upgrades (Does it need a bolt kit or other stuff and the fewer the upgrades needed the better but it is fun to make it my own gun)

              4. Looks (If I think its ugly the other 4 better be in my favor greatly)

              5. Price isn't really a factor (I am not spending $1500 when I can get the same gun from another company for half the price with less of a brand name)
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              • thefool
                resident idiot
                • May 2005
                • 671

                #8
                alright...
                how about open vs closed bolt (do you not care)
                electro vs mech (assuming they can shoot the same speed, electro just give you more control e.g. ramping and caps)

                whats a good size
                whats a good wieght
                what type of trigger pull do you like, describe it

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                • 68magOwner
                  Registered User
                  • May 2003
                  • 3475

                  #9
                  #1- reliability
                  #2- how it shoots
                  #3-overall feel
                  #4-price
                  #5-rarity/prestige
                  #6-looks

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                  • buzzboy
                    Emo grass cuts inself
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 1322

                    #10
                    Open vs closed means nothing to me. Actually the over all system means more. Like blowback/blowforward/autococking/spool/etc. I hate the feel of Blowbacks. That constant BANG BANG of the internals and the loud recocking. Tippys are the worst sounding. Stack tubes arn't as bad but still get annoying. I really like the recoilless feel of autocockers because the backblock equalizes out the kick from the air and ball moving forward. Plus they are very smooth. Ram/poppet Epneus are cool but sometimes they seem really boring much like stack tube blowbacks. I personally rate spool valves and mag valves on the same level. The spool is cool because of the almost zero kick and very smooth firing sequence. Kind of the same wiht mags but I really like the sound, just the psh of it firning.

                    Mech vs E really isn't a big deal to me. For me that is just one more 9vt battery to put on my gun. Right now I have 2 in my warp and 2 in my revy. Those add up to be heavy. Plus I like a gun that I could play with in the rain with no problems I just have to slap on a different hopper.

                    Mech is also fine in firepower. I really don't see the need to shoot more than like 10 bps at the very most.

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                    • Dye Angel Guy
                      University of Dubuque
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 929

                      #11
                      The old school shoe box shocker had the best feel to me. I really liked the closed bolt.
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                      • punkncat
                        One foot less
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5841

                        #12
                        I am a little late sounding in on this one, but here goes anyway..

                        I look for a marker that I enjoy the looks of. Given that MOST modern (better) paint markers perform pretty much the same, I like to find something that looks good to me.
                        I also try to find markers that are special in some way. Now this is offest of course by their cost, but if you can find a limited edition, special milling, etc. then it will (in theory) be worth more down the road when you try to resale it.

                        Maintanance issues are high up in my consideration as well. I don't want anything that is hard to work on or find parts for.

                        As far as open/closed bolt. About the only consideration I make on that is this. With an open bolt marker your ball detents hold the ball in place until you shoot. Therefore paint to barrel match is not so important. What I am getting at is that with a closed bolt marker if your bore is too big then balls will roll out of the barrel when you face it down, making your first shot a "dud". Of course too small a bore with either will cause other problems...
                        The only TRUE closed bolt marker I know of other than some assorted pumps are autocockers. Other manufacturers CLAIM closed bolt opertation, but truly aren't.
                        Basically if you pull the trigger, it fires, reloads and the bolt is in the FORWARD position when that cycle is over and ready to fire again, then its truly closed bolt.

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                        • Oddball91
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 94

                          #13
                          #1 --> most for the money
                          #2 --> how it does on air
                          #3 --> accuracy
                          #4 --> weight
                          #5 --> looks

                          thats the top 5 things that i look for

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                          • JRingold
                            Big Fat Guy
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 772

                            #14
                            An Automag...
                            I went like this :shooting:
                            He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
                            Now he shoots a Mag too...

                            -JR

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                            • thefool
                              resident idiot
                              • May 2005
                              • 671

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JRingold
                              An Automag...
                              lol

                              alright cool i like the responces, now to send this in a slightly different direction while keeping the flare of the old, what makes a good trigger pull

                              and please continue commenting on closed vs open
                              Last edited by thefool; 04-22-2006, 07:45 PM.

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