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  • grEnAlEins
    dazed and confused
    • Jul 2002
    • 2864

    #16
    Originally posted by WaffleBaron
    I believe Monster Balls are Brass Eagle.
    No kiddin' Huh, did not know that... They shoot waaaaay better than BE paints usually do. Last time I used them, they shot better than the Marbs I bought (horrible batch)
    bless, support, and never forget the troops
    God bless my cousin: Cprl. Peter J. Giannopoulos K.I.A. 11/11/04 in Latifiyah, Babil Provence, Iraq.

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    • RapidTransit
      E-Body Man
      • Jun 2004
      • 400

      #17
      Surprised no one has mentioned MacDev
      Gun: AGD eMag with LvL10
      Cars: 1991 Lexus LS400. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-4, Auto, 1 of 816. 1970 Dodge Challenger 318 S/E, soon to be a 440-6 with a 5 speed, and painted Sublime green

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      • shorty24
        Micro-pnue...
        • Aug 2004
        • 643

        #18
        AGD
        RPG
        CP
        Evil
        WGP
        WDP
        SP
        WWA
        Logic
        TPI

        /my favs in no particular order...
        Feedback

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        • mag88888
          ULE MAG
          • Oct 2004
          • 983

          #19
          agd
          sp
          dye/proto
          angel
          empire
          tippmann
          evil
          planet eclipse
          indian creek
          kingman
          rt ule custom, boomstick, ult,apoc2k and x board revi, i want:j&j ceramic.

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          • Cow hunter
            300fps=204.54mph
            • Aug 2005
            • 1521

            #20
            Originally posted by RapidTransit
            Surprised no one has mentioned MacDev
            pachytriton did.....

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            • Kevmaster
              Owners Group Div: Director
              • Oct 2001
              • 5475

              #21
              Originally posted by Indignant
              NPS? That's the biggest of 'em all. Is that owned by K2 too?
              BE/K2, DYE, SP, Tippmann, Kingman and NPS are the bar-none largest companies in the industry. Nobody comes close in the realm of market manufacture. However, only K2 is a public company--and so they're the only ones who publish their earnings. So we only know K2's profit and can only speculate at the other 5's. That said, I would bet that BE & Co is larger than anyone elses...as they've made gross revenue over $100m for the past 3-4 years and profits in teh range of $10-$15m during that same period.

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              • ttink
                Registered User
                • Aug 2005
                • 317

                #22
                AGD
                AKALMP
                Kingman
                Crossfire
                Empire
                Veiwloader
                WGP
                JT
                Diablo
                SP

                In no particular order of course

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                • Cow hunter
                  300fps=204.54mph
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1521

                  #23
                  AKALMP
                  AGD
                  WDP
                  Crossfire
                  empire
                  viewloader
                  dye
                  evil
                  planet eclipse
                  WWA

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                  • Stealth Fighter
                    You won't hear the shots
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 216

                    #24
                    Quality and Customer Service wise:

                    1. AGD
                    2. Odyssey
                    3. Tippmann
                    4. Dye
                    5. Evil
                    6. JT
                    7. WDP
                    8. ICD
                    9. Smart Parts
                    10. WGP

                    Financially

                    1. Smart Parts
                    2. Brasseagle > ...................
                    3. Tippmann > ..................... I know what your thinking, but these four make fortunes
                    4. Kingman > ...................... from Wal-Mart
                    5. PMI > ..............................
                    6. AGD
                    7. Dye
                    8. JT
                    9. WDP
                    10. ICD

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                    • m-a-r-k-7
                      I less than three myself
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 279

                      #25
                      PPS
                      AGD
                      AKA
                      CCI
                      Tippmann
                      SP
                      ICD
                      Empire
                      Custom Products
                      New Designs

                      No real order to speek of

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                      • mobsterboy
                        Mr.StealYoDallara

                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2371

                        #26
                        DYE-The matrix marker series, the masks, gearbags, barrels, shoes, jersies, pants, gloves, beanies, tshirts, what angel was a couple years ago...dye is now. dye is everywhere.
                        SmartParts-Ions, i think that just saying that earns them the 2nd spot. Ions now outnumber DM's and they are used often as rentals. Along with their superfluous product line (IE: Shocker(shoebox), Imp, new Shocker, Nerve(revamped Imp), SP8(tactical ion), Ion)
                        WDP- I mean holy crap guys. These ppl come out with 5 models a year. You have the speed, the fly speed, the g7 the g7 fly, the gat, the mamba speed, the avalanche g7, you get the point. If they didnt release so many dang guns, they'd be on top market-wise, but when your 200Trillion speed is now "not as new as....(insert newer model here)" the agg kiddies dont value yours as much, so it is now worth less than what you'd want to part with it for)
                        Planet Eclipse-Talk about a huge market here. They sold sear tripping solenoid powered triggerframes for years, and im talking YEARS People! They could be worse than Microsoft, in that their "E2" frame was only "better" by having longer battery life, better eyes, and MAYBE some modes. Zero B was released, which supported ramping, firing modes and firing caps, so that kinda saved them. Now they are kinda following in WDP's footsteps, the ego, the mantis ego, the "all new 06 ego"(looked the same in my opinion. maybe it lost 9 oz??? Cool milling?) Not to mention their eclipse frames, jersies, pants, gloves, autocockers. These guys are pretty much whats kept cockers alive for so long.
                        WGP-We're talking cocker craze here ppl. Whats the first thing a noob wants when he thinks "speedball"? A cocker. Ive narrowed it down to that backblock(its pretty sweet until it pops you in the face if you dont have a beavertail). Cockers have sold more over any other gun IN ITS PRICERANGE. With the low pressure rage, these were beasts.
                        Indian Creek Designs-from their old pumps to their new freestyle, ICD has tried to keep up. They've seemed to do pretty well, but they hide in the shadows for the most part. They have their $300 somethign "high end tourney gun", their "HE bolt, super efficient" Freestyles, heck, when Imp's were out, the BKO and Bushmaster series was competing with them(i think ICD came out with theirs first). I suppose they could be a lot lower, but a bushy back a couple years ago was a mean gun to have
                        Brass Eagle/k2-THis is nothign more than the Walmart factor. Little kiddies and redneck bubbas alike look at the walmart gun section and think,"Hmm, my (wife or mother) said no (more if he's old) guns, but those were real guns, this is just a paintball gun" and get the gun, thinking they will get quality. I guarantee you, though, that I have NEVER seen a brass eagle anything shoot for more than a game without leaking SOMEWHERE. The craftsmanship is so poor that parts do not match up correctly, the orings are often old, heck, at least for the outrageous amount they are charging, you'd think they could throw in a 1oz bottle of pb oil. I guess they get credit for their "FRAGILE" revvy's and the paint made by Brass Eagle.
                        Empire-IF you have never seen an annual Empire catalog, you cant really understand this one. They make 5, count em, 5 complete sets of pb gear. Thats complete with gloves, jersey and pants. THey also have about 8 models of gearbags that they change EVERY year. They sponsored timmies a while back, they have barrels, guns, loaders, paint, masks, shoes,. The only thing they dont make is the players
                        Kingman-lets just see a show of hands as to who started first with some kind of blowback gun...'Nuff Said. They make their guns so accessable. I do have to admit, they've really got something here when they target low level new players with the shiny guns and the add-ons that do JACK SQUAT(I fell prey to this, as did i with my xvalved dallara hypermag, but the dallara is out of production, so thats my story...). YEah, so thats that
                        Tippmann-One word, Scenario. These guys really know their scenario stuff. Thats for sure. Going to a scenario tournament and not seeing a tippmann is like going into KFC and not seeing a black person...bad joke, good analogy

                        look up their products, their prices and tell me im wrong

                        Edited for full reasons
                        Last edited by mobsterboy; 04-23-2006, 09:47 PM.
                        RAWR
                        Dallara Den

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                        • Stealth Fighter
                          You won't hear the shots
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 216

                          #27
                          Originally posted by mobsterboy
                          DYE
                          SmartParts
                          WDP
                          Planet Eclipse
                          WGP
                          Indian Creek Designs
                          Brass Eagle/k2
                          Empire
                          Kingman
                          Tippmann

                          look up their products, their prices and tell me im wrong
                          If that is financially and in a specific order, I wouldn't put smart parts at the top for quality and customer service, Dye could be the top, but I don't think financially. Smart Parts quality and customer service is good, but AGD has the best warranty (the star system).

                          If that isn't in any order then I agree with you, but I think AGD should be in there instead of Planet Eclipse. If it is in a specific order, I don't think Dye would be at the top. I think Smart Parts would be at the top followed by the Wal-mart brands (seriously, think of how many Wal-mart's there are, and just about everyone has a Spyder, PMI, Tippmann, or Brass Eagle of some sort)

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                          • Pntball1866
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 55

                            #28
                            In no order

                            AGD
                            Dye
                            CCI
                            Palmers
                            WDP
                            CCM
                            AKALMP
                            Tippmann
                            Sheridan
                            WGP

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                            • mobsterboy
                              Mr.StealYoDallara

                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2371

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Stealth Fighter
                              If that is financially and in a specific order, I wouldn't put smart parts at the top for quality and customer service, Dye could be the top, but I don't think financially. Smart Parts quality and customer service is good, but AGD has the best warranty (the star system).

                              If that isn't in any order then I agree with you, but I think AGD should be in there instead of Planet Eclipse. If it is in a specific order, I don't think Dye would be at the top. I think Smart Parts would be at the top followed by the Wal-mart brands (seriously, think of how many Wal-mart's there are, and just about everyone has a Spyder, PMI, Tippmann, or Brass Eagle of some sort)
                              A) Im pretty sure AGD no longer provides the star service. Check it and see if im wrong, but i think once xvalves went mainstream and they became a niche type of company, they stopped honoring them
                              I edited for reasons, i was just too lazy to do it earlier
                              RAWR
                              Dallara Den

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                              • Stealth Fighter
                                You won't hear the shots
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 216

                                #30
                                But, I would hope you would agree with me that the Wal-mart brand markers should be higher up the list financially. I mean there were 4189 Wal-marts across the world as of 2004, put two 98customs for $100 in each for instance and thats the quickest $418,900 I can think of, and thats not including paintball stores and other sporting goods places and not to mention Wal-mart probably has more stores than that now.

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