One day, when the money is there, all of this will be settled in court. Then we can all see how iron clad the patents are.
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their convenience doesnt make the market.
THis is gonna sound cold, harsh and unreasonable, but a thing like an illness that sets back a product could sink your company. Their window for this was years ago, and barely anyone that cared then still care now. Hell, i would have bought one, but now the challenge of making my own is too intriguing for me to just go and buy one now, and most other maggers that really wanted a pneumag already figured out this same concept.
if the demand is up, the supply better be up. If the demand is up and the supply is none, the interest decreases.
you make it sound like they've been biding their time for something extravagant to happen, like a mass electro strike or something, well they can keep waiting then.
I really dont care what you say about this from this point on, because your views are tainted by a family-like friendship and no matter how right i am, you will always try and defend them. Its not a bad thing for you to want to defend them, its just not always rational.
I really do hope Forest gets better.RAWR
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You guys are being ignorant morons. Jay gave you the reason why this patent came out and the situation with PTP. It was not only logical and rational, but it's probably true as I don't see why Jay would lie. But you've all decided to ignore that so you can put the blame somewhere. Someone has to be blamed for everything. That's the incredibly immature and idiotic way you people act on a day to day basis and most everyone is sick of it. Cut the crap and grow up.
I'm sorry that every company on the market doesn't wait on the smallest demographic in the industry hand and foot. Oh, maybe they should do the right thing and become poor to make 500 people out of 8 million happy. Get a damn grip. PTP is doing what they need to do to sustain themselves lest they cease to be able to cater to anyone. And that's what every company on the market does no matter what you think. A company does what they do in their own self interests. We each do what we do in our own self interests. Countries do what they do in their own self interests. It's how the world works. Only so many people are going to baby you all for the rest of your lives, making you feel better about every little bad thing that happens. At some point you're going to have to wake up and smell the roses. Because, no one is going to want to put up with an adult that acts like a 12yo. And if you don't like it, move to China. You can live your "utopian" communist dreams there.
Rock on Jay and rock on PTP
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"A" demand for it HAS been met already. The Patent HAS been exploited to a large percentage of it's potential. Only a very TINY portion of it's potential pertained to the Automag (even way back when) and not enough to make a difference in the big picture.Originally posted by mobsterboytheir convenience doesnt make the market.
THis is gonna sound cold, harsh and unreasonable, but a thing like an illness that sets back a product could sink your company. Their window for this was years ago, and barely anyone that cared then still care now. Hell, i would have bought one, but now the challenge of making my own is too intriguing for me to just go and buy one now, and most other maggers that really wanted a pneumag already figured out this same concept.
if the demand is up, the supply better be up. If the demand is up and the supply is none, the interest decreases.
you make it sound like they've been biding their time for something extravagant to happen, like a mass electro strike or something, well they can keep waiting then.
I really dont care what you say about this from this point on, because your views are tainted by a family-like friendship and no matter how right i am, you will always try and defend them. Its not a bad thing for you to want to defend them, its just not always rational.
I really do hope Forest gets better.
In terms of 'extravagant'....yeah , it's already happened and with company 100X the size of AGD and PTP put together.
So , thanks for your concern.
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Regardless of how good PTP are as people (and I honestly do not doubt you at all) or what good reasons they have for getting that patent, it NEVER should have been issued. It is the epitome of what is wrong with the patent office/process...

Sorry to hear about Forest. If he is who I think he is I met him a long time ago and found him to be a stand up guy. My best wishes for a complete and speedy recovery.Last edited by hitech; 05-06-2006, 07:51 PM.
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