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  • REDRT
    Mags, Y use anything else
    • Apr 2004
    • 1854

    #1

    The Aurora Finish

    Anyone know for a fact how the aurora finish was done? I know it takes its toll on the marker and not many survive the process. Eclipse is hush hush about it and no one I talk to has any idea. It looks to me like chrome pipes tarnished by exhuast heat. Could that be it? Plated then electro polished and heated at the same time to get the effect?

  • BigEvil
    www.BigEvilOnline.com

    • Feb 2005
    • 9333

    #2
    I always got a bonner for those Eclipse guns. An Aurora Ego would be hot.

    I understand its not at all easy to get good result, which is why I thing PE stopped doing it. I know AGD played around with the aurora finish on an Xmag, and it looked like an abortion.

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    • REDRT
      Mags, Y use anything else
      • Apr 2004
      • 1854

      #3
      Originally posted by BigEvil
      I always got a bonner for those Eclipse guns. An Aurora Ego would be hot.

      I understand its not at all easy to get good result, which is why I thing PE stopped doing it. I know AGD played around with the aurora finish on an Xmag, and it looked like an abortion.
      Is that the one pictured under the prototypes in Xmag world?

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      • st6212
        Registered User
        • May 2001
        • 470

        #4
        Quote from Pumaking:

        " I'm the one who currently owns the 2 Auroras and I've spoken to several people from Eclipse concerning the Aurora plating. Here is what it is. To begin with no its not titanium or anything like that, Eclipse actually came up with there own method on how to do it. Anyways the bodies are first plated with Nickel b/c you cant just chrome plate aluminum, than its plated with Chrome. After that has been done the gun is put into a Special Chamber where the gun acts like a lightning rod and 20,000 Volts of Electricity is ran through the gun and leaves the special plating you see now. After all this is done then a special layer of protection is added, Eclipse wouldnt tell me what it is but its to help prevent any chipping or peeling. The plating is actually extremly durable despite what some people believe. As for who does it at this moment No company will do it b/c it costs to much and is extremly dangerous. Eclipse stated that when they made the Auroras they went through 9 bodies to get 1 good one, they also stated that it costed them over $1700 for one good one b/c of the bodies they had to destroy. So hopefully this might of cleared things up. "

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #5
          Originally posted by REDRT
          Is that the one pictured under the prototypes in Xmag world?

          Yes thats the one.

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          • REDRT
            Mags, Y use anything else
            • Apr 2004
            • 1854

            #6
            Originally posted by st6212
            Quote from Pumaking:

            " I'm the one who currently owns the 2 Auroras and I've spoken to several people from Eclipse concerning the Aurora plating. Here is what it is. To begin with no its not titanium or anything like that, Eclipse actually came up with there own method on how to do it. Anyways the bodies are first plated with Nickel b/c you cant just chrome plate aluminum, than its plated with Chrome. After that has been done the gun is put into a Special Chamber where the gun acts like a lightning rod and 20,000 Volts of Electricity is ran through the gun and leaves the special plating you see now. After all this is done then a special layer of protection is added, Eclipse wouldnt tell me what it is but its to help prevent any chipping or peeling. The plating is actually extremly durable despite what some people believe. As for who does it at this moment No company will do it b/c it costs to much and is extremly dangerous. Eclipse stated that when they made the Auroras they went through 9 bodies to get 1 good one, they also stated that it costed them over $1700 for one good one b/c of the bodies they had to destroy. So hopefully this might of cleared things up. "
            Thanks for the info. So the 20,000 volts is what kills the bodies? The colors then are like electrical burns. I wonder if normal heat like a torch could creat something like that? Final stage must be some sort of clear coat. Dupont must have something.

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            • REDRT
              Mags, Y use anything else
              • Apr 2004
              • 1854

              #7
              Originally posted by BigEvil
              Yes thats the one.
              Ok I have seen it then. It is lack luster, but atleast they tried.

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              • REDRT
                Mags, Y use anything else
                • Apr 2004
                • 1854

                #8
                I just keep on thinking of "Young Frankenstein" with Gene Wilder. Flip the switch, 20,000 volts and IT"S ALIVE!

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                • st6212
                  Registered User
                  • May 2001
                  • 470

                  #9
                  I can't find a pic of the x-mag anno....but last I remember it would change colour/shade slightly when looking at it at different angles and different lighting.

                  I think they did something similar to their flatline air systems also?

                  I could be wrong about it, its been a few years since I saw it. Anyway, the only thing that came to my mind, was how it resembled the rear end of a blowfly.

                  As far as I know with the Aurora finish, what you see is pretty much it. In that, the picture you have there gives off the illusion that the colours and shades will change under different lighting and at different angles when looking at it, when it fact it doesn't.

                  Still an awesome finish though. I'd love to get that finish, if it weren't so risky.

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                  • REDRT
                    Mags, Y use anything else
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1854

                    #10
                    xmag prototypes

                    This link gets you to the pic of the Xmag. Not so good.
                    20,000 volts isn't all that much. It is the amps that kill. I'm going to study and maybe try some atempts at doing it. On some thing other than a marker for sure at first. It is the ultimate finish. Sure to win any vote for best looking.

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                    • st6212
                      Registered User
                      • May 2001
                      • 470

                      #11
                      Ahh, ok I remember that x-mag pic....not the one I was thinking of. Although that is pretty much the AGD aurora version. Not as clean and slick as the Eclipse finish.

                      The "blowfly" finish I was thinking of actually changed shades. I think they just did it to their air systems. Mostly a coating I think, not anno. It pretty much looked brown and fugly upon initial look of it. I think it was AGD Europe that came up with it at the time.
                      Last edited by st6212; 05-14-2006, 06:01 AM.

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                      • Chaos_Theory!

                        #12
                        If you guys want it theres a huge thread over on PBN in the voided warrenty section (anodizing) about it. Very informative and prob covers any questions you may have about it.

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                        • GT
                          Automag?
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 5786

                          #13
                          My understanding is that the problem with the bodies was kinda a myth. The real problem is that the finish is prone to chipping. Maybe when they introduce the contaiminate into the nickel plate.
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                          • REDRT
                            Mags, Y use anything else
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1854

                            #14
                            I'm sure I can gather up 20,000 volts. I just wonder how they zapped it for starters? Maybe there is a better way? I got a few ideas forming, but I'd have to get some chromed aluminum to test my ideas.

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                            • Kyle.Kimber
                              Resident Sexologist
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 460

                              #15
                              I thought that was called a gasoline effect. I think I saw that on WWA or something.

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