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  • ABTOCMEPTb

    #31
    The only reason why I refuse to send it first is because I got absolutely no protection in of case buyer refuses to send me wrong item after receiving the right one.

    Buyer got protection from Paypal, from Credit Card, from Ebay while seller got none.

    Ok, lets say, I sent correct item first. And buyer lost any interest in me after we went trough all this "dirty laundry" thing on forum. So what would be your advise for me in case I dont get my wrong item? Contact who? You? Police? IFCC?

    My only hope to get my item back is to hold correct item here. I hold it not because I am such a POS that doesnt want to send right item but because I got all reasons to beleive that I can get F'ed on both items.

    I sent PM with my SHIPPING INFO for returns again on 5/26/06. Do you think I got "wrong" items back? Think again.....

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    • Grey Goose
      yeah, it's me.
      • May 2004
      • 168

      #32
      You still have the buyer's payment, and have not sent correct item. Period. End of story.

      What you don't get is that YOU have not followed through on a deal. You're in no position to claim someone else may not keep their word, because you haven't.

      Man, I personally wouldn't send back anything until I got the correct item.

      Again, you still have payment. Buyer has nothing but wrong item. Your burden to fix.
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      • ABTOCMEPTb

        #33
        I would be happy to get everything back and refund 100%. Not a problem.

        Not a single official business will exchange you an item unless you ship faulty/wrong item first. Period.

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        • Steelrat
          I meant to...uh, nevermind
          • May 2003
          • 5375

          #34
          Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb
          I would be happy to get everything back and refund 100%. Not a problem.

          Not a single official business will exchange you an item unless you ship faulty/wrong item first. Period.
          Are you an official business? This is the second time you have compared your practices with those of retailers, even though you are not one.

          Oh, and BTW, I hate to bust your bubble, but plenty of retailers will ship a replacement before you ship the faulty/wrong item back. Cingular just did it with my RAZR. Twice. They also sent a box with prepaid postage for the faulty RAZRs. Fujitsu also did it when the hard drive on my laptop went bad, shipping me a replacement before I sent the bad one. Twice.
          Last edited by Steelrat; 06-04-2006, 05:01 PM.


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          • Steelrat
            I meant to...uh, nevermind
            • May 2003
            • 5375

            #35
            Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb
            The only reason why I refuse to send it first is because I got absolutely no protection in of case buyer refuses to send me wrong item after receiving the right one.

            Buyer got protection from Paypal, from Credit Card, from Ebay while seller got none.

            Ok, lets say, I sent correct item first. And buyer lost any interest in me after we went trough all this "dirty laundry" thing on forum. So what would be your advise for me in case I dont get my wrong item? Contact who? You? Police? IFCC?

            My only hope to get my item back is to hold correct item here. I hold it not because I am such a POS that doesnt want to send right item but because I got all reasons to beleive that I can get F'ed on both items.

            I sent PM with my SHIPPING INFO for returns again on 5/26/06. Do you think I got "wrong" items back? Think again.....
            What protection does the buyer have? You already have shipping information showing that the package got there, so what guarantees would there be to ensure you would ship their items out once they return the incorrect item? The argument works both ways.

            Think of it this way. If you send them the replacement first, and they don't send the wrong item back, then they have two items, but you still have the money that was paid to you. If they send the item back to you, and you fail to ship out the correct item, then you have the goods AND the money, while they have nothing.
            Last edited by Steelrat; 06-04-2006, 05:01 PM.


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            • Beemer
              I could tell you but then.

              • Oct 2003
              • 3250

              #36
              Rock on Steel

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              • Grey Goose
                yeah, it's me.
                • May 2004
                • 168

                #37
                Lots of good businesses will ship replacements first.

                You're just making yourself look worse, you know.
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                • ABTOCMEPTb

                  #38
                  I honestly care less how do I appeal to you personaly or to anyone else. I know that I am not shipping correct item untill i get "wrong" item. So you can dump all kind of BS on me here I still would not change my opinion.

                  I am willing to correct my mistake but I am not willing to bend over because I made one.

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                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb
                    I would be happy to get everything back and refund 100%. Not a problem.

                    Not a single official business will exchange you an item unless you ship faulty/wrong item first. Period.
                    I bet you tomorrow if any of the businesses I deal with shipped me the wrong item I could have the right item shipped immediatly to me as well as shipping costs on the wrong item. There are a lot of "official businesses" that do not follow your theory on that. And your a seller on AO, you have been paid for a correct item, you have not sent it. You are in breech of contract until they are shipped the agreed upon item - not the buyer.

                    I think you need to get off your high pedestal and make it right. Personally I think you have gone way to far in dealing with this in public, your defenses just make you look worse, you would have been better to state your position and then shut up. When I first saw it I shrugged it off as a simple misunderstanding. Now having seen your continued attitude towards it, I no longer think it that simple. I doubt I'm the only person.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                    • Steelrat
                      I meant to...uh, nevermind
                      • May 2003
                      • 5375

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ABTOCMEPTb
                      I am willing to correct my mistake but I am not willing to bend over because I made one.
                      Bend over? The buyers paid you money in good faith, and you sent them the wrong item. Now you are dictating the terms by which they will get what they paid for. The only people getting bent over are them.


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                      • Rudz
                        Registered User

                        • Apr 2005
                        • 5087

                        #41
                        uh oh

                        im sorry i originally stood up for this guy, i take it back, hes shady, ive noticed in more ways in one on this forum, he sold an xmag, than decided he wanted it, send payment back, then put is for sale again , for a higher price
                        BEO MAFIA
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                        • ABTOCMEPTb

                          #42
                          I never sold anything to you. I never returned any payment to you. Do you have prove that I sold you something or maybe you can prove any money return I made for my xmag?

                          In all my transaction I canceled 1 item: $15 grip that I sold and than decided to use on minimag.

                          I think you changed your "opinion" after I refused to trade xmag for your viking and after I posted about shady situation with carbon grips.

                          Well done but I want you to know I am not looking for neither support or hate from any member. Wrongfully shipped barrel doesnt hurt my mind.

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                          • Rudz
                            Registered User

                            • Apr 2005
                            • 5087

                            #43
                            no

                            you told me you had decided to keep your xmag, and returned payment to the person who bought it, then turned around and wanted more for it, when it had already been sold, thats what im talkin about.
                            BEO MAFIA
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                            • ABTOCMEPTb

                              #44
                              I told you that so you can stop annoy me with your constant trade offers for viking. And I repost sale post as soon as I got marker back from Tunaman. With a lot of extras and ofcourse with a bigger price. Programmer, barrel kit and warpfeed setup worth more than $250.

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                              • SpecialBlend2786
                                Registered User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 4023

                                #45

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