Just how much would you pay for a slug body ?

[Lohman446]

is there any business ethic left around?

When we had blackout here in NYC some grocery stores tried to jack price on batteries and spring water. Some of those sellers got beat up pretty badly.

I unknowledge that slug is not an emergency product but hey no one punching scalper with slug body either....... However I consider both examples opportunistic and unethical type of business. Lets justify body parts sellers. After all they help other people to survive.

Too bad that people forgot that greed is also a sin.

This is a consumer commodity, not a necessity - whatever price it can sell for is fine. Don't preech sin to me and then complain about someone's price either. What is the reason for your complaint? A desire to not spend money? Besides, I am very certain that the same book also teaches one not to judge others, especially those they do not know. Funny you lecture on the sin of greed and make it known you have 2 cyborgs and 3 mags. Little greedy? Maybe you should donate those to the less fortunate comrade?

To compare this to the unethical practices of certain merchants during time of crisis, the oil companies, or others such as those, is ludicrous.

[warbeak2099]

Woah woah woah. Cool it.

I think what we see here is the bad side of laissez faire capitalism. The other extreme is even worse however, communism. I think both arguments have good points. No the government can't control markets with an iron fist. That would be communism and it would be wrong. But, the government should be looking out for consumer interests. Just like we see everywhere else in the law, the word "reasonable" should be applied to pricing. Of course you've got to make a profit. But your profit margin for a product shouldn't be unreasonably high and therefore harmful to consumer interests. Things to need to be moderatly regulated. We have seen how in a laissez faire system, a single incompetent CEO can wreak havoc on a local economy. This very year, Ford Motors has been pummeling the Detroit economy with their monumentally stupid decisions. I don't think anyone wants complete government control. But a little more regulation is needed for stability and just protection from idiocy. It's really time to quit the idealistic bullcrap and make decisions based on hard facts. I think people are hesitant to lean towards more regulation because of this mentality that any regulation is communism.

[ShooterJM]

/me Is dangerously close to breaking out into an economics and pricing theory lecture.

[Lohman446]

Woah woah woah. Cool it.

I think what we see here is the bad side of laissez faire capitalism. The other extreme is even worse however, communism. I think both arguments have good points. No the government can't control markets with an iron fist. That would be communism and it would be wrong. But, the government should be looking out for consumer interests. Just like we see everywhere else in the law, the word "reasonable" should be applied to pricing. Of course you've got to make a profit. But your profit margin for a product shouldn't be unreasonably high and therefore harmful to consumer interests. Things to need to be moderatly regulated. We have seen how in a laissez faire system, a single incompetent CEO can wreak havoc on a local economy. This very year, Ford Motors has been pummeling the Detroit economy with their monumentally stupid decisions. I don't think anyone wants complete government control. But a little more regulation is needed for stability and just protection from idiocy. It's really time to quit the idealistic bullcrap and make decisions based on hard facts. I think people are hesitant to lean towards more regulation because of this mentality that any regulation is communism.

We are not discussing an energy, or a required consumable good. We are discussing a purely luxury item. My argument has nothing to do with anything but a consumer luxury item.

[SCpoloRicker]

/me Is dangerously close to breaking out into an economics and pricing theory lecture.

I prefer "Get the heck off my lawn!"

[ABTOCMEPTb]

I got my markers with the money I earned by working. Sometime 72 hours a week. If I need another marker or big screen TV I work more to get more money. So explain me please how having 5 markers makes me greedy? I got 3 family members actively playing with me. So 3 primary and 2 back-ups seems like a right arsenal to have.

Less fortunate people got an option to either get a job or wait for a time when they can get one. Its not a sin to work.

P.S. I am amazed by explanation of communism. Seems like you think that communism its when Stalin tells you what to read or what to do. But its not a communism.

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

[going_home]

Let 'er rip

/me Is dangerously close to breaking out into an economics and pricing theory lecture.

Please do an economics breakdance for us sir !
Do it !

[warbeak2099]

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

Hahaha, it's not really that simple. Communism has so many complexities that lead it away from that fundamental idea of people workign and getting what they need handed to them. Full blown communism does not work in reality nor does it work on paper. The experiment has been run many times over. It at least statistically impossible for communism to work as it is intended to. Nor does it seem very agreeable were it to work according to plan. People in a communist system are not rewarded for their merits or their skills, everyone is the same. There is no individuality or praise of talent. You could be an honest, hardworking person, and still get paid the same amount as some lazy bum who can't do his job worth a damn. Sorry, you really haven't got a good handle on what communism is about. And I fear for our future if you think communism promotes individual needs, honesty, or hardwork. Communism ends up as nothing short of very well organized genocide.

[Jdogg]

supply and demand if you dont want the slug dont say anything, EVERYBODY knows how hard it is to find one, take in the fact that thay are not being made, and have not been bade for a while. it is the babies who canafford it that are crying, i have aquired a near relic in the automag world and i only know of a few to be around. so since i paid 200 for it you will only sell it for 150? i have to say the three fifty was high but i wasnt giving it away. in my shoes it was a flattering offer just to sell it, there are many people who wants one DEMAND, there is only 7 of them two i own to exist SUPPLY. you dont have to have DW mill it, they will do just about anything to it. the Sluggo is a alsome thing to own,{ not to forget the other well toned machinest} you can make anything you want with it, me selling it to much, no. you upset i have and you dont... would you just give away one if you have it? ofcourse i am going to want to sell it for more and if you cant handel it there are other fourms to go cry on

and if you looked at the auction you would see it is a SUBMITT BEST OFFER BUT if you have to buy it there is a buy it now price.

everyone cried when there wansnt one, here one is. typical

[ABTOCMEPTb]

What you are explaining is not communism as its should be. You explained social model of the Soviet Union in late 70's. They were far away from communism. I was born there and leaved there for 25 years - I know what communism is really about.

Communism requaired honesty and integrity. Yes, its impossible to create 100% communism society on modern Earth. Most people want to work less and get paid as much as possible.

Just imagine how many crimes will go away if there are no money and anybody can get anything he needs. That is what communism is all about.

Dont judge about communism by evil deeds of Soviet goverment. After all it was american goverment that locked asian looking people in camps after Pearl Harbor. And it was USA of late 50's and 60' with all the racism going on. Dont forget that goverment is the same greedy people as those that want to work less and get paid as much as possible.

[MicroMiniMe]

P.S. I am amazed by explanation of communism. Seems like you think that communism its when Stalin tells you what to read or what to do. But its not a communism.

Communism its when you dont pay for goods or services. You work to get all this. You work hard and honest and in return you got what you need. Car, tv etc etc etc

Where is KAI when you need him?

[ABTOCMEPTb]

Where is KAI when you need him?

Talking to your self?


Jdogg.
Ofcourse you can sell it at the price you want. But you will be judged by your deeds. Some people as you see will support you and some like me will not. As long as this conversation stay civil I dont see why it cant continue.

We are all here because we use same tool for our hobby and forum is the place to post your opinion.

[Jdogg]

if there is a whole bunch of slugs i want to know where they are, but since i am cheap. and know AGD wont make any more you paid what 200ish... i will give you 75

[ABTOCMEPTb]

I dont need it. I dont understand why you think I need one?

But if someone sold it to you for $200 why not to sell it for $220 or $250? After all $50 reward for just reselling seems reasonable. Right now its look like you are trying to squeeze every drop out of this.

Once again some people support you in it. I dont. What changed? Nothing.

[warbeak2099]

What you are explaining is not communism as its should be. You explained social model of the Soviet Union in late 70's. They were far away from communism. I was born there and leaved there for 25 years - I know what communism is really about.

Communism requaired honesty and integrity. Yes, its impossible to create 100% communism society on modern Earth. Most people want to work less and get paid as much as possible.

Just imagine how many crimes will go away if there are no money and anybody can get anything he needs.

Oh my God. You tell that horse crap to the 60 million people who were murdered under the Bolshevik rule in Russia and Eastern Europe. That's from 1917 until the fall of the Soviet Union. Not just the 70's. Then when you're done with that, try and pass your drivel to the millions of people killed by Pol Pot. Then maybe you can go to the other side of the globe and explain how Communism can actually work to the people murdered, tortured, raped, beaten, imprisoned, and made to keep their own thoughts to themselves in Latin America. Tell it to the Chinese who have endured over 50 years of Communism and are still living under it today. Tell it to the millions of North Koreans who were systematically starved to death under Communism. But yes, other than those and a host of other examples, you're right, Communism could really work.

Give me one good example where Communism has not ended in suffering and murder. And don't give me an example of Socialism, that's different. Socialism is not all that bad sometimes. In Scandinavia during the Great Depression, Socialist reforms allowed Norway and Sweden to remove themselves from the disaster earlier than any other European nation and also America.

And another thing, Communism doesn't work and then get corrupted. IT NEVER WORKED IN RUSSIA AT ALL. Right from the get go, Lenin was torturing people and comitting genocide. Wake up from the propaganda you've been fed. I simply cannot believe that there are still people who are ignorant and naive enough to want to try it again when 100's of millions of people have been killed and otherwise victimized by the brutallity of what Communism really is.