Bluetooth in paintball.

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  • RavishingEddie
    Creator of the EMAG 9

    • Feb 2006
    • 727

    #16
    Originally posted by mobsterboy
    i think it would be good to have a bluetooth barrel tip to record and send exactly what speed paintball are being fired at and how fast they are shooting at any given second. Also, have a cutoff for ppl who are out, so the minute the ref pushes a button for a given player who's out, or maybe just a transponder for their armband, and if its pulled, the board goes to a "safe mode". Streaming data like this allows for out accuracy, less chances for cheating, more strickt bps ruling and less chances of a dead man getting someone else out on his last stream of paint before going to the dead box
    now if only TK could start working on something like taht, because if he convinced NPPL, CFOA, NXL, and all the other leagues to use it, he'd be making big bucks. It would be owned by the leagues but rented out by the teams, and the teams would have no time to mess with it, just strap it on, test it and good to go. Comp terminals taking in data and highlighting spikes of bps/fps and disqualifying/point docking teams who do not abide by the rules. It would be an even playing field again. Now only if we could work on wiping...

    I like the last couple points you made there on using the new technology for anti cheating purposes. I am finishing my BA in management of network and communication systems and this whole idea of incorporating this technology fascinates me. It actually gives me the idea to create something that can prevent hacking from the sidelines. I however find it very difficult figuring out how they exactly will hack the guns. I am comparing this system to the new PS3 console coming out for video games and they also use the bluetooth standard. If the communication goes beyond gun to hopper then the exposure might prompt hackers to take advantage, but I think it would be very hard to try and hack a gun that is simply communicating to its hopper. They might have detection devices but how would you know who's gun you are hacking with all the players are using the same device? If however the data is well encrypted we will be 99% worry free.

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    • IcantBelieveit
      Registered User
      • Nov 2002
      • 1339

      #17
      good thing i am back into woodsball/scenario play instead of the tourney scene....i don't see this bluetooth technology going anywhere good with the tourneyh scene....if in fact you CAN control settings from the sidelines...
      MY FEEDBACK

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      • 68magOwner
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 3475

        #18
        ill just sabatoge everyone by putting a small EMP at the starting gate

        mech revolution

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        • Hexis
          Green Mag Freak
          • Sep 2001
          • 2427

          #19
          Originally posted by RavishingEddie
          I like the last couple points you made there on using the new technology for anti cheating purposes. I am finishing my BA in management of network and communication systems and this whole idea of incorporating this technology fascinates me. It actually gives me the idea to create something that can prevent hacking from the sidelines. I however find it very difficult figuring out how they exactly will hack the guns. I am comparing this system to the new PS3 console coming out for video games and they also use the bluetooth standard. If the communication goes beyond gun to hopper then the exposure might prompt hackers to take advantage, but I think it would be very hard to try and hack a gun that is simply communicating to its hopper. They might have detection devices but how would you know who's gun you are hacking with all the players are using the same device? If however the data is well encrypted we will be 99% worry free.
          I would think somone finishing their BA in anything network related would know of the MAC address concept. Each bluetooth device has a, wait for it, wait for it: a Bluethooth Device Address. The BD_ADDR is a 48 bit address unique to each device (802 compliant even). A unique address on each device is pretty much manditory for any broadcast network, since you have to address the frames/packets/cells to somone. Anyone trying to hack to cause annoyance to a specific team would know the BD_ADDRs of the team they were not trying to mess with.

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          • magman007
            I <3 my Penis
            • Jun 2001
            • 7579

            #20
            hopefully it isnt a dumb idea of using your palm pilot to load on settings again, because we all know how many people actually used that feature on the ir3....


            what i think should happen utilizing this technology, is each gun should be monitered by a ultimate ref, if anything is cycling faster, or there is an odd dwell fluctuation occouring, bam gun is off, player is pulled.

            there are many applications that could be used, it just depends of wdp will hog it all, or if other manufacturers will pick up on it as well, allowing progression of the sport.



            Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
            "That's right!
            WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
            ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
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            • Hexis
              Green Mag Freak
              • Sep 2001
              • 2427

              #21
              Originally posted by magman007
              hopefully it isnt a dumb idea of using your palm pilot to load on settings again, because we all know how many people actually used that feature on the ir3....
              Bluetooth is designed to be a cable replacement technology, so it's actually a far better option than a palm specific port. Since you could use any BT device (laptop, palm, whatever) that had a display interface to manage settings on the gun, it may actually provide some benefit. I'm sure some tech for teams would love to be able to push a config change to a group of guns at the same time.


              Originally posted by magman007
              what i think should happen utilizing this technology, is each gun should be monitered by a ultimate ref, if anything is cycling faster, or there is an odd dwell fluctuation occouring, bam gun is off, player is pulled.
              The problem there is that you are trusting the gun to provide that information. There is no reason the software can't provide a clean signal to the big brother, and shoot using different settings.

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              • magman007
                I <3 my Penis
                • Jun 2001
                • 7579

                #22
                thats where nppl style robots come into play, most players now arent alowed to touch their guns before they go out anyways, so why not bot em, make sure the blue tooth output matches the guns actual output. if it changes on the field, your done.



                Originally posted by Tom in reffrence to a post saying he acted like my dad...
                "That's right!
                WHO'S YOUR DADDY!!"
                ALL QUIT AND NO GO!!! Team Icky Forest-Shatnerball 2003!!!
                www.tunamart.com
                DONT SUPPORT HYPOCRITICAL MISSLEAD YOUTH, BOYCOTT HK

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