Need Newbie gun advise

[BigEvil]

I can pretty much know a little something about most any high end gun out on the market, but I havent been a newbie since oh about 1991-1992 so I need a little educated input on the subjet.

Here's whats up. My brother and my sisters boyfriend came out to ball this weekend with me and my two other brothers. Both were instantly hooked. The brother im talking about played sparatically once in a while, even going back to my very first game in 91, but he is still in the newb class cus he is pretty much clueless.

Both of them want to buy equipment of their own. I want to point them in the right direction with the markers. Both of them used mech mags this weekend, and at times were overmatched against experienced players. So I am leaning much more towards electros.

So what would you guys recomend that is electro, somewhat idiot proof, and not too expensive? Im thinking IONS because by far you get the most bang for your buck, but my exerience with them makes me think I better have some spares in the parts box for them.

What do ya think?

[Skittle]

Cheap E-spyder.

Personally I believe every noob should start with a spyder or tippy. Its simple, easy to use, and easy to take apart and clean.

[Chaos_Theory!]

Go with ions. Compared anything else in the same price range they are way better. With only a few minor ups (if they choose to buy any) they are good to go.

[11 Bravo]

Wrath or Ion.

[StygShore]

wraths

been seeing Wraths go for 100-150 on ebay a lot lately.

Ion is best bet for "performance" setup. Or even an A-5 with E-trigger if you want something more rugged. works off CO2 just fine, pumps out the paint, and you can dig yourself a foxhole with it if you need too.

Styg

[FinchMan]

can the ion run on co2? are they going to get hpa anyways?

I would take a look at the new spyders that have eyes. I think those are nice enough guns.

[warpig13]

if you could find one, an older style angel (2001 or so) go for really cheap. i just picked one up for $150

you may have them look into the old bushmaster or a gen 1 defiant

but if theyre lookin for something new, i hate to say it, but the ion is a good choice (if they ever upgrade to a body kit, please send me the plastic one....i've always wanted to put one in the microwave for 10 minutes )

[StygShore]

Co2

I have heard claims the ION will run on CO2....but I would like to see it not turn into a block of ice at 15bps ramping mode without some serious modifications.

Best bet A-5 with RT or E-trigger. RT triger is usually a bit stiff, but if they are allowed burst and full auto it is nice and cheaper than an e-trigger.


Styg

[punkncat]

It has a lot to do with how often you expect they will actually play. If very little I would say go for the Spyder/Tippy. Most local fields should cater to less experianced players and run mech only or new player only games.

As far as bang for $$ there is no beating an Ion....right? Their quality control has gotten better, but expect that you will have a few minor problems. Problem is that with an Ion they will also need a motorized hopper, HPA, etc.. That runs the low price up a bit and should be factored in.

There are quite a few companies making "Black Dragun" knockoffs that are pretty dependable like clones generally are, and will run on HPA or CO2. The one I got(won) for my son doesn't care if it has a gravity fed loader. I am quite pleased with its performance and they go really cheap.

Used Imps or Bushies are a pretty good bet as well. Great prices available on what has proven to be a good marker over time.

As I said earlier I would factor in how long you really expect them to play.....even w/o that factor, get them something super cheap to begin with and IF they stick with it more than a few games THEN consider something a little better.

[BigEvil]

I am going to throw some ideas their way. Like someone said, it all depends on how much they are going to play.

Since I have the toolbox, I'll be the sucker that has to do the upkeep. It really doesnt matter to me. I just dont want anyone to be out gunned.

[Skittle]

I am going to throw some ideas their way. Like someone said, it all depends on how much they are going to play.

Since I have the toolbox, I'll be the sucker that has to do the upkeep. It really doesnt matter to me. I just dont want anyone to be out gunned.

someone will always be outgunned.

[warbeak2099]

E-Spyder or Pirhana EVO. They don't need anything above that.

[BD_Paintball]

ion if they want to spend the money or if they want to save some money they can go with the Pirhana EVO like warbeak2099 said. I have 3 cousins that were in the same situation as your brother and your sisters boyfriend. 2 of my cousisn got the EVO and the oldest with more money got the ion.

[Cow hunter]

E-Spyder or Pirhana EVO. They don't need anything above that.

seconded, both are easy to maintain and shoot fast enough. the new spyder electra with eyes would be a best bet

[BigEvil]

seconded, both are easy to maintain and shoot fast enough. the new spyder electra with eyes would be a best bet

Do the ones with eyes all have those rocking triggers?