What is the fastest......?

[siloseven]

I dis-agree.

The halo is forcefed, therefore there is constant pressure on the balls, so when the bolt opens for a ball to come in it is forced in rather than dropped in.

:)

Remember there are 2 types of Halo's.

the TSA adgitator kind and the force fed belt driven.

[SpitFire1299]

Remember there are 2 types of Halo's.

the TSA adgitator kind and the force fed belt driven.

Oh yeah.. thats right. Im talking about the Halo B though.. force fed belt driven.

[MoeMag]

[geekwarrior]

how do you distinguish the sound of 30 bps vs 40 bps? I would love to beleive it and see it. But until there is a vid of it, with a sound anaylsis, its only a rumor.

[yeahthatsme]

you can have single shot shoot down, it happens all the time. the reg just cant keep up with the speed, so every few shots it doesnt fill all the way and causes shoot down. shoot down doesnt lead to imminent misfires.

[magman007]

Im a Pilot as well, and I'm damn sure of my aerodynamics. This is not the first time it has happened, thats the thing. Tom, Doc, Manike, and many others have commented on this before, and have given the reasoning that i gave you many a time before. just search for mid air breaking or something like that, and you will find the posts I am reffering to.

[Spartan X]

They had that problem with some of the prototype videos of the MQ valved cocker too if I remember correctly.

with a Viking and the scm/2liter you would never have to worry about shoot down at any speeds

[shorty24]

I have my facts straight.. the karni was in some mode I thought to be " training" that made it not fully cycle.. I just didn't mention it.. as to the ion, maybe I have my numbers off, but it went faster than the viking in zak vetters test. I know it had a t-board, QEV and some other modifications.. I don't have the video but I saw it on a friends comp

As far as I know, Zak Vetter's infamous test was the Automag RT (not Viking) speed test w/ vid at 34.5 bps. And until I see vids/goldwave of something faster, I won't believe it.

Ah yes, the Karni. I remember that vid, too. But like we said, the point is moot, due to the fact that it was quite obviously not fully cycling.

Over on PBN, and even here sometimes, this thread will come up and some douche replies "a Spyder can cycle faster than anything out there"...yeah, great. Show me proof, and I'll believe it.

I am currently working on a project that will be able to test the absolute max speed of any marker w/ or w/o paint as long as trigger pull isn't ridiculously ginormous. More details to come later...

[SCpoloRicker]

*monocle owls*

[HuD1Ni]

talking of speed, some dude claims he can shoot is trilogy sport 12 bps... stock no ups.. I found this to be..

[punkncat]

Did Zak actually have paint feeding to that, or just cycling with the pressure kicked way up? I remember him doing one so demonstrate the RT effect, but not feeding paint.

His Viking video is shooting at what BPS?

Several of the other claims I call shens on until I see proof...especially that 30+ BPS out of an Impy thing. I have seen Imps starve out going around 20 due to restricted air passages...I simply cannot believe that is true w/o something other than "I saw it".


I realize there is a 15BPS cap. That in no way has anything to do with what I am asking. Thanks for the (obvious) input though guys.....

[Arstron]

Zaks viking was shooting at 32 and the mag at 34.5 and both was shooting paint.
http://www.zakvetter.com/

[SlartyBartFast]

What you were "cursed" with is a hyperactive imagination. How did you "see" 40bps?

Human eyes and ears are useless at determining BPS as are all on gun counters and displays.

Until there's a video, with good sound analysis, All claims = Shenanigans.

And do you really know your physics? Doesn't look like it:

60 bps = 1 ball every 1/60th of a second
300 fps for 1/60 of a second = 5 feet between each ball in the string.

How the BLEEP does something as small as a paintball "draft" another paintball that's 5 ft ahead? It may as well be in the next county. To draft, paintballs would need to be within a fraction of an inch of each other.

So, until you start shooting in the vicinity of 3600 bps or more (at which point balls would be 1 inch apart) drop the idea of drafting.

The only reason two paintballs meet in midair is:
- they're being shot head on
- the first one was much slower than the second
- pure serendipity as the random motion of one curves out and back while the other miraculously does the opposite or continues in a straight line.

[geekwarrior]

The only reason two paintballs meet in midair is:
- they're being shot head on
- the first one was much slower than the second
- pure serendipity as the random motion of one curves out and back while the other miraculously does the opposite or continues in a straight line.

thats what I was thinking....if you had crappy paint, which was probaby used for this test, you probably had inconsistant size, so one was going faster than the other?

[punkncat]

Zaks viking was shooting at 32 and the mag at 34.5 and both was shooting paint.
http://www.zakvetter.com/

Nice