My Pmag is finally finished!! Review & Hi-res pics!!

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  • shorty24
    Micro-pnue...
    • Aug 2004
    • 643

    #91
    Well, for those of you who have been waiting, I made a vid today. It's in Quicktime format, and I don't know how to change it to WMV or host it, but if someone could help me out with this, I'd like to get it goldwaved. Sorry, there's no paint (lvl10 was actin up as soon as I put paint in it), and it's really short...maybe just over 1sec of actual firing. BUT, it shows the full potential of this setup, FULLY cycling and reseting for each shot. I'll work on more vids later...
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    • Pneumagger
      I like 'Mags.

      • Jun 2006
      • 3556

      #92
      Originally posted by shorty24
      Well, for those of you who have been waiting, I made a vid today. It's in Quicktime format, and I don't know how to change it to WMV or host it, but if someone could help me out with this, I'd like to get it goldwaved. Sorry, there's no paint (lvl10 was actin up as soon as I put paint in it), and it's really short...maybe just over 1sec of actual firing. BUT, it shows the full potential of this setup, FULLY cycling and reseting for each shot. I'll work on more vids later...
      SEND IT HERE!!! Email = [email protected]

      I'll do it tonight!

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      • shorty24
        Micro-pnue...
        • Aug 2004
        • 643

        #93
        vid now up in July MOTM!!!
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        • Makarov
          Registered User
          • Sep 2003
          • 22

          #94
          Why is the FABCO MSV-1 so popular to actuate the MPA-3? Why couldn't an autococker 3-way be used, like say, an ST bomb? I know it lacks spring-return and has an extra port, but that's nothing a 10-32 set screw and Wile. E. Coyote airsmithing can't fix. It seems like it could be advantageous due to the way in which it would be mounted and its short stroke.

          If you look at the pneumag built during the RedEye (http://www.beog.org/redeye/pneumag.php) thing, they used a Clippard SMAV-3, which is shaped much like an autococker 3-way. I much prefer the way that was mounted, rather than how the MSV-1 is; with one screw and a lot of friction.

          Perhaps there is no difference. But i'm just throwing the idea out there, in case it hasn't already been considered.

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          • slade
            Carpe Noctem
            • Apr 2004
            • 3442

            #95
            Originally posted by Makarov
            Why is the FABCO MSV-1 so popular to actuate the MPA-3? Why couldn't an autococker 3-way be used, like say, an ST bomb? I know it lacks spring-return and has an extra port, but that's nothing a 10-32 set screw and Wile. E. Coyote airsmithing can't fix. It seems like it could be advantageous due to the way in which it would be mounted and its short stroke.

            If you look at the pneumag built during the RedEye (http://www.beog.org/redeye/pneumag.php) thing, they used a Clippard SMAV-3, which is shaped much like an autococker 3-way. I much prefer the way that was mounted, rather than how the MSV-1 is; with one screw and a lot of friction.

            Perhaps there is no difference. But i'm just throwing the idea out there, in case it hasn't already been considered.
            because a cocker 3-way is actually a 4-way, has no return, and generally, a longer pull. the MSV-1 is very light/snappy, the MSV-2 is even lighter with a longer required pull.
            xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
            68/30 PE nitro tank
            cp unimount
            halo B

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            • BigEvil
              www.BigEvilOnline.com

              • Feb 2005
              • 9333

              #96
              Quick question - how light is the pull with the Fabco valve? Is it walkable? Did you do anything special to lighten the pull?

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              • slade
                Carpe Noctem
                • Apr 2004
                • 3442

                #97
                Originally posted by BigEvil
                Quick question - how light is the pull with the Fabco valve? Is it walkable? Did you do anything special to lighten the pull?
                how walkable it is depends on, well, your finger strength, the valve itself, and the valves location. the higher up the valve is in the trigger (the activation point) the greater walkability (longer and lighter pull). the MSV-2 achieves the same thing as putting the valve further up, just adding a lever to make the pull longer and lighter.
                xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                68/30 PE nitro tank
                cp unimount
                halo B

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                • shorty24
                  Micro-pnue...
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 643

                  #98
                  How light is the pull? 1.8 ounces w/ the ULT.
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                  • Pneumagger
                    I like 'Mags.

                    • Jun 2006
                    • 3556

                    #99
                    Originally Posted by BigEvil
                    Quick question - how light is the pull with the Fabco valve? Is it walkable? Did you do anything special to lighten the pull?
                    I measured the frame with ULT installed at a 1.1oz (35g) midlength trigger pull. Shorty measured it at a 1.5oz pull he said.
                    With RT on/off I got about 2.1oz (70g). I used weights set in the middle of the trigger. So the weight of the trigger was probably helping itself. The minimum pull distance is about 1mm to 1.5mm.

                    The feel is still different than electro though. Not like a magnetic pull or a spring pull. It's a smooth constant pull force at all the distances, not clicky at all. Not snappy, but not sluggish. It kinda stays with your fingers with a constant force on the pull and release. It' unique and easy to get into a rythem with. I got to shoot a DM6 a few days ago. Kinda like that, only the DM6 still had an "electro" feel.

                    Would you call this walkable?

                    14 BPS Sustained

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                    • surfbum
                      Unregistered User
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 736

                      #100
                      hey pneumagger:
                      where did you get that fitting on the top of shorty's lpr?
                      thanks

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                      • Pneumagger
                        I like 'Mags.

                        • Jun 2006
                        • 3556

                        #101
                        I took it out of my ION. So it will handle about 200+psi and take a beating. If i knew they were like $7 a peice, I woulda held onto it. Oh well... I've upgraded to an Emag

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                        • surfbum
                          Unregistered User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 736

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Pneumagger
                          I took it out of my ION. So it will handle about 200+psi and take a beating. If i knew they were like $7 a peice, I woulda held onto it. Oh well... I've upgraded to an Emag
                          do you know where you can get them new?
                          or at least what they are called?
                          thanks
                          (sorry for the thread highjack)

                          EDIT: found them thanks for the info

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                          • Makarov
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 22

                            #103
                            would the MSV-1 or MSV-2 fit in an intelliframe?

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                            • wjr
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 995

                              #104
                              Yes.

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                              • shorty24
                                Micro-pnue...
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 643

                                #105
                                Originally posted by wjr
                                Yes.
                                :rofl:

                                /they *should* both fit, I guess it depends on how you want to set it up
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