question on emag solenoid

[trevorjk]

Im actually already on this one;

http://www.bigevilonline.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=61&sid=d3b0981df2b6d88f292f25f53d867df1

well in this case, ill slowely help you

although im at the drawing board and still looking for parts still

[RapidTransit]

um, thats what the emag is already. its just a high end sear tripper

Re-Read my sentence.

[SlartyBartFast]

if im thinking right, a simple microswith to battary to solenoid connection would work fine. would make TRUE semi.

Actually, for true semi and good consistency I'd think that you'd be best with a one-shot circuit.

It's not a good practice to send the operating current through the switch anyways...

[trevorjk]

Actually, for true semi and good consistency I'd think that you'd be best with a one-shot circuit.

It's not a good practice to send the operating current through the switch anyways...

actually after looking all morning i think i might actually go with a T-Board with eyes. or some other tiny board. now i just gotta start saving money for this project

[Pneumagger]

I realize that the idea of improvement and looking for another way to do things is always good, and one thing that I love about the AO community. But I fail to see the advantage of this modification versus what we already have.
It will be far more complex than the original design. Your operation includes installing a different board, ULT, ram, microswitch, means of connecting sear to ram, LPR, QEVs, hosing/connectors, Solenoid Valve, and a 9V. It seems much more complicated than battery >> trigger sensor >> Board >> solenoid. Very little can malfunction in the original setup. Your setup requires tuning an LPR, tuning a ULT, and worring about a half dozen more hose connections and Orings. Plus it can fail in any one of the components versus only the Emag board or noid.

Don't get me wrong...I'm just as eager to see if it can be done as the next AOer, but I don't ever see it being an efficient replacement to the Emag. However I can't wait to see the progress on this and hopefully you can produce something that can reproduce/surpass the current emag setup. Good Luck

[RRfireblade]

That's not necessarily true.

While the stock set up is quite simple it is also under an extremely heavy work load. Those parts were never intended to see the ROF that people are expecting to get out of thier markers today. The stock set up is working right at it's very limit.

I have two electropneumatic mags that have been together for quite some time now. Simple LPR , electro soleniod and ram set up. Extremely dependable and reliable parts that have been proven in this configuration for years now. Runs for months on a 9v and functions under a very easy and light load doing so. IMO opinion a far better solution than stock.

But like anything else , it has to be done correctly w/ quality parts and the only real gain is knowing it'll run like that all day long with out a sweat and it's a bit lighter without the huge 18v-er under the hood.


Oh , knowing that you have electronics that can finally keep up with one of the fastest cycling valves in paintball for the first time since the Emags inceptions kinda cool too.

[trevorjk]

I realize that the idea of improvement and looking for another way to do things is always good, and one thing that I love about the AO community. But I fail to see the advantage of this modification versus what we already have.
It will be far more complex than the original design. Your operation includes installing a different board, ULT, ram, microswitch, means of connecting sear to ram, LPR, QEVs, hosing/connectors, Solenoid Valve, and a 9V. It seems much more complicated than battery >> trigger sensor >> Board >> solenoid. Very little can malfunction in the original setup. Your setup requires tuning an LPR, tuning a ULT, and worring about a half dozen more hose connections and Orings. Plus it can fail in any one of the components versus only the Emag board or noid.

Don't get me wrong...I'm just as eager to see if it can be done as the next AOer, but I don't ever see it being an efficient replacement to the Emag. However I can't wait to see the progress on this and hopefully you can produce something that can reproduce/surpass the current emag setup. Good Luck

actually, a ULT would NOT be needed, if i can find a ram with a pull forced of at least 3 pounds (looking for 4 pounds) wich im looking at clippard and mose rams have forces well over the 3 pound range.

and honestly the only difference in the pnuemags we have now with this one would be, in reality, a microswitch, battery, and board.

[BigEvil]

That's not necessarily true.

While the stock set up is quite simple it is also under an extremely heavy work load. Those parts were never intended to see the ROF that people are expecting to get out of thier markers today. The stock set up is working right at it's very limit.

I have two electropneumatic mags that have been together for quite some time now. Simple LPR , electro soleniod and ram set up. Extremely dependable and reliable parts that have been proven in this configuration for years now. Runs for months on a 9v and functions under a very easy and light load doing so. IMO opinion a far better solution than stock.

But like anything else , it has to be done correctly w/ quality parts and the only real gain is knowing it'll run like that all day long with out a sweat and it's a bit lighter without the huge 18v-er under the hood.


Oh , knowing that you have electronics that can finally keep up with one of the fastest cycling valves in paintball for the first time since the Emags inceptions kinda cool too.

[RapidTransit]

That's not necessarily true.

While the stock set up is quite simple it is also under an extremely heavy work load. Those parts were never intended to see the ROF that people are expecting to get out of thier markers today. The stock set up is working right at it's very limit.

QFT, At AONE my X-Mag noid crapped out because of the heat

[RRfireblade]

Yeah, I used to catch alot of flack back in the day for saying that but back then , I may have been the only one with an Emag programmed to run that fast. Since 4.0 finally got done and now XMOD , it's far more obvious.

[VFX_Fenix]

Didn't CoolHand do this with his Ultimate Mag Frame?

[trevorjk]

Didn't CoolHand do this with his Ultimate Mag Frame?

are you going to pay $450 for it?

better yet, am i going to pay $450 for it, when from the looks, all parts will cost less then $250 total, and its going to be a project that takes up time and keeps me sane.

thats how i look at it anyways.