Big-time Bounce test blues -What to do?

[cledford]

Guys,

Last weekend I had a horrible outing due to my paint. (Proball bought at Pevs - 3 weeks old, but not out of bags until the night before) I got the field and was chronoing the Emag (stock barrel) and was getting break after break in the barrel. (At least it wasn't chopping) I then tried to chrono the Timmy (Freak with correctly sized insert) and it turned into a power painter!!! Not only was I getting barrel breaks but paint was literally oozing out of the ACE eye covers. Now no gun can avoid breaks down the barrel - especially if the paint is fragile - but the Timmy isn't susposed to be breaking/chopping in the breach.

I then tried the old standby, the gun that in one year of play only ever broke a single ball (down the barrel, and it shot clean - I didn't even know until cleaning that night and I found some paint residue.) before - my 2000 v-force shocker. It broke at least 1 ball out of every 10.

I was determined yesterday to purchase a "premium" grade of paint to avoid any issues this weekend - I was furious the last - as I could not finish a single game due to severe breakage. Anyhow, I purchased a case of Inferno last night at Pevs Woodbridge, took it home and did the bounce test. Out of 10 balls 8 were NO BOUNCE - the split in half as soon as they hit the floor. 2 bounced a single time, then broke.

I'm going to see if Todd or Rob will exchange the paint for me - but in the mean time I thought I'd post here and see what peoples opinions were regarding the matter.

I did the bounce test as soon as I got home to insure nothing I did storing the paint was a problem - looks like Tom's tech article on paint is right - the manufactures are making the stuff WAY to fragile these days.

Anyone have any suggestions on good 5-8 bounce paint to try? I saw Todd on the way out of the store and he said the Inferno would be great in the Timmy (I trust his opinion) but I'm thinking its going to be to weak.

-Calvin

[Nitroduck]

I would try RPS Marbs if they are still made....They've always seemed to be the best average shelled paint out there.

The inferno should work in the timmy and possibly mag.....I am using Nitroduck which is doing about 9 no bounces for 10 balls......Its working great in my Angel and Cocker (which both run at 350psi)......So the inferno might work in the Mag.

[Hysperion]

ya try marbs, whenever i don't have to use field crap (which is rps/pmi premium at both fields I play at and actually isn't that bad) i use marbs or that new polar ice stuff which works well in the cold....

[joeyjoe367]

Man I am really starting to get Urked by the fragility of paint that's being produced these days.

Why do the manufacturers care what Tourny guys want anyhoo? It's the recballers that are buyin' all the paint

[rhetor22]

Thats why you need to buy Severe paint!!!

Its great!!!!! shell is the right hardness to be fired from any gun without breaking, and it breaks on target very well. Its accurate, has no dimples, perfectly round, no seam... Its super fantastic.

[RobAGD]

Calvin - That ProBall was HUGE, I have been making sure to let people know that the run of ProBall we got was just massive. We are talking 690/691 in size. It was WAY too tight for a stock barrel.

As to the Freak and Shocker, only thing I can say there is that I have no idea. Typically ProBall is a bit "bouncie" vs brittle.

The Inferno if it was the White/Red shell with white fill, I had no problems shooting it in mild weather. It got a bit messy in colder weather. The trick is to use a larger ID barrel for the more brittle paint.

Swing by my shop and I'll see what I can work out for you.

-Robert

[cledford]

Thanks Rob...

I appreciate it - you guys always hook me up, and until now I've never had a paint problem. Sometimes a little knowledge can cause trouble I had read Tom's article a while back and didn't think much of it until last weekend. When I got home with the Proball It was breaking on 2-3 bounces - which is why I was worried last night about the Inferno breaking on the first drop. Until last weekend I never bounced my paint so it just goes to figure...

Anyhow, I read you on the Freak inserts and the - I was using the largest (.693?) and still getting breaks. I was actually quite amazed to be doing it in the shocker!

I saw Todd yesterday and was BSing with him about the matter and he thought that maybe since Proball has been discontinued they are slipping a bit on the quality.

Anyhow, I'll stop by with the paint to see what you guys think. I'm sure the Inferno is great stuff in the right weather - but it might be nice to swap it for some paint that is a little tougher. Sorry about the trouble, I pretty much thought (aside from size) that the paint was all the same.

-Calvin

[AGD]

Calvin,

Now just imagine if you didn't know about the bounce test and only had one gun. You would have assumed that since you asked for tough paint it must be the gun causing all the problems. I'm glad you posted this for everyone to learn how important it is to get all the facts before you jump to conclusions.

I am afraid fragile paint is going to be a fact of life for some time to come. We are currently doing all our testing with paint straight out of the frig so it's 100% no bounce from waist high. The combination of crappy paint and cold weather is hurting a lot of players right now. Pray for spring.....

AGD

[cphilip]

It was 79 here for the last four days. 75 today. Spring? Move South....

[Load SM5]

Yep, I wore shorts yesterday and got hot. Moving south will solve all of your problems.

[hitech]

Originally posted by cphilip
It was 79 here for the last four days. 75 today. Spring? Move South....

Spring is great, but the summers will kill ya.

[Gecko]

Moving south will solve all of your problems

except for all the inbreeding, deadly insects and reptiles, natural disasters, summer temps and humidities and rednecks........

(sorry i'm from new england adn i'm looking outside at the 2 inches of ice)
Gecko

[Load SM5]

Hey, I have'nt inbreeded in a long time Plus if I did'nt have air I could swim through in the summer my nose would start bleeding. It's amazing what you get used to.

As far as the wildlife goes. I think your thinking of Florida. That's not really the south, it's a place all it's own. But the do have those alligator farms that attract you northern guys like flies to feces.

[Gecko]

nice
Gecko