do you think this would work

[pablo4429]

hey guys i was just wondering something
an autocockers bolt never actually hits the ball huh like propell it forward just the air
so why doenst a compnay just make a gun the uses a small burst of air to shoot the ball and only have like one moving part. is this possible or am i just being simplistic?

[Indignant]

wouldn't be very practical with current technology and stuff.

[pablo4429]

well itd be really simple and reliable and have the possibility to shoot really fast

i assume

[Indignant]

well, if you are going to be trying to get a small jet of air to reliably, and quickly shoot a paintball at 300 fps it won't be as simple as i believe you think it would be.

[pablo4429]

i dunno like you said though with all the technology it might be possible and guns today do the same thing as far as regulating the psi and volume of air going into the valves and chambers

[Indignant]

well, if you are going to be trying to get a small jet of air to reliably, and quickly shoot a paintball at 300 fps it won't be as simple as i believe you think it would be.

it's more than just tossing a reg on a pipe and shooting air out it.

[VFX_Fenix]

What you're proposing is a gun which has no bolt, these have been done in the past either through an articulated barrel (NOVA/Airstar) or through a trap door breech (I can't recall who did this one).

And for the record, an AC bolt definately makes contact with the ball since it pushes the ball forward into battery before the gun shoots.

[Jonneh]

That extra .68 inches is what gives the cocker it's legendary range!

[the mag guy]

What you're proposing is a gun which has no bolt, these have been done in the past either through an articulated barrel (NOVA/Airstar) or through a trap door breech (I can't recall who did this one).

And for the record, an AC bolt definately makes contact with the ball since it pushes the ball forward into battery before the gun shoots.

Epic, the other one is an ICE Epic. Really neat little gun. Novas are cool too, I want one.

[Lohman446]

It was discussed in deep blue some time ago. Consider using basically a fuel injector to shoot just air into the breech. The problem that the discussion ran into was the sealing of the breech from the ball stack. Basically every method discussed became as problematic (or far more so) than just having a bolt.

[paintman1234]

ya, the nova uses its barrel to push back into the breach to close of the feedneck and shoot the ball

but what your thinking of is a trap door sort of thing

[MANN]

That extra .68 inches is what gives the cocker it's legendary range!

We finally figured out how they shoot farther(sp). Maybe we can get automags to move the ball that .68 inch too. lol

[SCpoloRicker]

I work for fuel injectors. So I'm really getting a kick out of a lot of these replies...

[Chronobreak]

the simple answer, no amtter how you set the gun up, your gonna ahve to close off the breech/barrel to direct the air at some point

hence the purpose of the conventional bolt msot guns use today

[d4m4don3]

Airstar Supernova, didn't have a bolt, but I think it got banned from fields because the set screw that held the valve in the back wasn't strong enough and it hit people?