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  • Chronobreak
    Rec Poster
    • Mar 2003
    • 5055

    #16
    Originally posted by d4m4don3
    Airstar Supernova, didn't have a bolt, but I think it got banned from fields because the set screw that held the valve in the back wasn't strong enough and it hit people?
    i said most,...


    guns like the epics diddnt have bolts, they had a door system as the cutoff for air

    and the novas had a rotating barrel

    i did know that info, i guess i just assumed others did too, thats why i said most

    some of the supernova's also performed actual supernovas..



    the point is, you cant just send an open poof of air at a ball(that im aware of), without wasting alot of air and or also blowing the paint back up/down the ballstack

    hope that make sence

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    • mag_lover05
      AEQUITAS
      • Jul 2005
      • 970

      #17
      ALIEN did it..... it was a trrap door design. your welcome.

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      • glickstue
        Registered User
        • Jul 2006
        • 81

        #18
        Originally posted by mag_lover05
        ALIEN did it..... it was a trrap door design. your welcome.

        Did that gun ever make it into production, or did they drop it and just do the interceptor? I saw a prototype of in at Hunignton Beach three years ago but I haven't seen one since.

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        • bleachit
          Conturbo et Ledo
          • May 2003
          • 1410

          #19
          Originally posted by the mag guy
          Epic, the other one is an ICE Epic. Really neat little gun. Novas are cool too, I want one.

          Originally posted by mag_lover05
          ALIEN did it..... it was a trrap door design. your welcome.

          not only did the mag guy beat you to it, but Epic beat ALIEN to it.
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          • paint magnet
            Member # 10,261
            • Dec 2001
            • 2488

            #20
            The only Aliens I've seen (Interceptors and the like) use a conventional bolt much like an Intimidator (or any number of other guns). Nothing revolutionary about a stacked-tube open bolt electro.

            There have been numerous attempts at boltless guns, namely the Nova, Supernova and ET versions thereof, and the PGI Mayhem as well as the ICE Epic, but for some reason none has sold well, with the exception of the Splatmaster

            It would, in fact, be quite easy to make a gun powered by just a blast of air with no "trap door" or anything. The problem is that it'd have to be muzzle-loading, which tends to hinder the rate of fire.
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            • pachytriton
              gowing
              • Jan 2005
              • 288

              #21
              The first alien prototype used a trap door design, but the makers of the epic had patented the trapdoor design. Alien then scrapped that gun and built the interceptor with some of the same technology from the first alien but with a normal stacked tube rammer design.

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              • Timmee
                eBay addict
                • Apr 2002
                • 1770

                #22
                Originally posted by Chronobreak
                i said most,...


                guns like the epics diddnt have bolts, they had a door system as the cutoff for air

                and the novas had a rotating barrel

                i did know that info, i guess i just assumed others did too, thats why i said most

                some of the supernova's also performed actual supernovas..



                the point is, you cant just send an open poof of air at a ball(that im aware of), without wasting alot of air and or also blowing the paint back up/down the ballstack

                hope that make sence
                The Nova series of markers did not have a rotating barrel. The barrel articulated back to seal off the breach, then forward to let the next ball in.
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                • SpecialBlend2786
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4023

                  #23
                  Yep, as said before, the ICE Epic used a trapdoor/boltless design. A very cool marker, I wouldn't mind owning one. Single tube design and all that as well.

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                  • NewbieMagMan10988
                    AO > Everything
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 580

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Timmee
                    The Nova series of markers did not have a rotating barrel. The barrel articulated back to seal off the breach, then forward to let the next ball in.
                    QFT

                    I have a nova, and as was allready said, boltless guns never took off.

                    Neat idea though...


                    Mike

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                    • Pyrate Jim
                      Shi Tamajutsu Ka
                      • May 2002
                      • 1052

                      #25
                      Nobody going to bring up the fact that the very first semi-auto marker in production for paintball had no bolt?

                      It had no safety on the trigger or any way to adjust velocity, either.
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                      • paint magnet
                        Member # 10,261
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 2488

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                        Nobody going to bring up the fact that the very first semi-auto marker in production for paintball had no bolt?

                        It had no safety on the trigger or any way to adjust velocity, either.
                        Originally posted by paint magnet

                        There have been numerous attempts at boltless guns, namely the Nova, Supernova and ET versions thereof, and the PGI Mayhem as well as the ICE Epic, but for some reason none has sold well, with the exception of the Splatmaster
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                        • SnatchForFree
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 91

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Pyrate Jim
                          Nobody going to bring up the fact that the very first semi-auto marker in production for paintball had no bolt?

                          It had no safety on the trigger or any way to adjust velocity, either.
                          What gun was that? Palmers camile?

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                          • paintman1234
                            It's Agg-Tastic!
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 743

                            #28
                            Originally posted by SnatchForFree
                            What gun was that? Palmers camile?
                            yes, the palmer camile was the first
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                            • NewbieMagMan10988
                              AO > Everything
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 580

                              #29
                              Originally posted by paintman1234
                              yes, the palmer camile was the first
                              Well, the first semi... but thats a whole debate in itself...

                              The gun he is talking about is the splatmaster... green plastic goodness...


                              Novas rule


                              Mike

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                              • gmp211
                                Gun Whore Extrodenair
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 270

                                #30
                                IDK if someone said this(to lazy to read) but....

                                The bolt also holds the balls back and prevents chops. It would be a sick crazy fast automatic though....

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