Why can't you use a ULT with an Emag?

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  • RavishingEddie
    Creator of the EMAG 9

    • Feb 2006
    • 727

    #1

    Why can't you use a ULT with an Emag?

    Ok I know you can't use one on an EMAG or XMAG. I just want to know why. The reason I am asking is because I am working on a project. Thank you
  • JRingold
    Big Fat Guy
    • Apr 2002
    • 772

    #2
    I believe it is because the solenoid requires the "return" pressure of the RT valve to reset. The ULE Trigger Kit doesn't push the solenoid back down with enough force.
    I went like this :shooting:
    He went like this :tard: then like this :wow: then like this :cry:
    Now he shoots a Mag too...

    -JR

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    • m-a-r-k-7
      I less than three myself
      • Oct 2005
      • 279

      #3
      Isn't the ULT also a lot thinner than the E-mag so at those hisgh speeds its easier to break?

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      • hitech
        Not a shedder of vortices
        • Nov 2001
        • 4775

        #4
        The ULT provides much less return force and doesn't pull the plunger out of the solenoid fast enough. It will work, it just slowes your max ROF.


        Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
        Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
        The only Hitech Lubricant

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        • RavishingEddie
          Creator of the EMAG 9

          • Feb 2006
          • 727

          #5
          Originally posted by hitech
          The ULT provides much less return force and doesn't pull the plunger out of the solenoid fast enough. It will work, it just slowes your max ROF.
          What if I use a smaller solenoid like this one? with a ULT. Actually I already have it, I am just trying to figure out how to attach the plunger to the sear

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          • Joni
            Registered User
            • Nov 2003
            • 942

            #6
            Yes, a small enough noid works (my hyperframe noid works like a charm with ULT)


            ULE RT Custom

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            • RavishingEddie
              Creator of the EMAG 9

              • Feb 2006
              • 727

              #7
              Originally posted by Joni
              Yes, a small enough noid works (my hyperframe noid works like a charm with ULT)
              Cool. So the Hyperframe uses a pull or push type noid? I assume I would have to add some juice from a capacitor. Is 1000 Mah good or more?

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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #8
                Originally posted by RavishingEddie
                What if I use a smaller solenoid like this one? with a ULT. Actually I already have it, I am just trying to figure out how to attach the plunger to the sear
                Well, I certainly believe it will work with the preoper solenoid. I've even posted links to the solenoid I think will work.

                I'm VERY interested to know the out come of your test. Please remember to let me know the results.



                Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
                The only Hitech Lubricant

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                • Joni
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 942

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RavishingEddie
                  Cool. So the Hyperframe uses a pull or push type noid? I assume I would have to add some juice from a capacitor. Is 1000 Mah good or more?

                  It's a push noid.

                  The capacitance of a capacitor is measured in Farad, not ampere hours. The cap in the hyperframe is 10000 micro Farad (10000 uF).

                  Good luck!


                  ULE RT Custom

                  Red ULE body
                  ULT
                  Electric Logic vert frame

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