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  • wjr
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 995

    #1

    The patent dispute

    There have been tons of threads talking about the pneuframe patent. I've never heard what was actually patented though. Does anyone have the patent number or know what was patented?

    Also what did smart parts patent?
  • paintman1234
    It's Agg-Tastic!
    • Aug 2004
    • 743

    #2
    smart parts patented everything.... but really they have the electropneuatic gun, ad a bunch of other stuff

    you could do some poking around and find all the info you need, a bunch of companies went out of buissness or were screwed over by sp. Some people say it was a jerk thing to do others thought of it as a good buissness tactics
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    • craltal
      MCB, baby...
      • Oct 2003
      • 1452

      #3
      SP patented the electronic firing system, basically if a switch is used to fire the gun, SP gets $
      here are some links to pdf's of the official documents i squirreled away a while ago.


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      • RRfireblade

        • Jun 2002
        • 5103

        #4
        The pneumatic patent is part of a larger Assisted Trigger Patent.

        Just do a quick search for that and it should be in the top few results.
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        • mobsterboy
          Mr.StealYoDallara

          • Aug 2004
          • 2371

          #5
          k, for the pneumag frame in question, the patent went to Colin. Now, when he finally did get the patent, there was just not a big enough following to logically take the steps to make the frames. By now, most have figured out how to make them DIY, or have moved on and just dont care. So its still owned by Deadly Wind, but the hAIR trigger just failed to launch
          RAWR
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          • mobsterboy
            Mr.StealYoDallara

            • Aug 2004
            • 2371

            #6
            Originally posted by paintman1234
            smart parts patented everything.... but really they have the electropneuatic gun, ad a bunch of other stuff

            you could do some poking around and find all the info you need, a bunch of companies went out of buissness or were screwed over by sp. Some people say it was a jerk thing to do others thought of it as a good buissness tactics
            i thought wdp countersued and won? What happened to that? And then Dye sued SP, didnt they? Im bout to do some serious research and write a paper on this stuff to be stickied, for sure.
            RAWR
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            • buzzboy
              Emo grass cuts inself
              • Mar 2005
              • 1322

              #7
              Look here for all of the smartparts patents.

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              • RRfireblade

                • Jun 2002
                • 5103

                #8
                Originally posted by mobsterboy
                k, for the pneumag frame in question, the patent went to Colin. Now, when he finally did get the patent, there was just not a big enough following to logically take the steps to make the frames. By now, most have figured out how to make them DIY, or have moved on and just dont care. So its still owned by Deadly Wind, but the hAIR trigger just failed to launch

                The "Patent" didn't go to Colin. Colin applied for and a got different and seperate Patent on more specific area of the invention. One could only speculate , but should a infringement case ever go to court , the PTP/K2 patent would still predate his.
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                • AlphaPaintballRef2
                  Rocket Scientist
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 95

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mobsterboy
                  i thought wdp countersued and won? What happened to that? And then Dye sued SP, didnt they? Im bout to do some serious research and write a paper on this stuff to be stickied, for sure.
                  The WDP v. SP scoop

                  Its kind of interesting (especially coming from PBN) and it is true to my knowledge (the Dr. Hensel mentioned in the article is a professor of mine).

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                  • Pneumagger
                    I like 'Mags.

                    • Jun 2006
                    • 3556

                    #10
                    ok people... he's just talking about the mech assisted trigger patent (hAir trigger). Enough of all this SP patent talk.

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                    • the mag guy
                      pwning noobs since '83
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 408

                      #11
                      i liked the WDP article. its good to see SP getting bent over and taking it....lol

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                      • mobsterboy
                        Mr.StealYoDallara

                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2371

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RRfireblade
                        The "Patent" didn't go to Colin. Colin applied for and a got different and seperate Patent on more specific area of the invention. One could only speculate , but should a infringement case ever go to court , the PTP/K2 patent would still predate his.
                        he's got an air assist trigger patent. what more does he need? Isnt ptp's under subjection still because its been rejected like 5 times?
                        RAWR
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                        • CoolHand
                          Logic Industries LLC
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 3769

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mobsterboy
                          he's got an air assist trigger patent. what more does he need? Isnt ptp's under subjection still because its been rejected like 5 times?
                          Where do you people get this stuff?



                          How about nobody posts an answer unless they are 100% positive that it is true.

                          In this case, that pretty much eliminates everyone but Jay, Colin, Rabidchuaua, and a couple of others.

                          Come on guys, you all are better than this. PBN is where people use facts*.


                          * - Meaning crap they just made up on the spot, or heard from the friend of a friend of a friend in the staging area.
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                          • SCpoloRicker
                            HA HA I'm custom!!1
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4375

                            #14
                            Heaven forbid I don't spout useless, incorrect info. I just post jokes.

                            /YA RLY
                            //3rd time's a charm?
                            God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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                            • Pneumagger
                              I like 'Mags.

                              • Jun 2006
                              • 3556

                              #15
                              goshdangit SCpolo...I saw you posted so I came to see some birds. Wellll??

                              GET TO IT MAN!

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