So who/what exactly did SP ruin?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Cow hunter
    300fps=204.54mph
    • Aug 2005
    • 1521

    #1

    So who/what exactly did SP ruin?

    So who/what did SP ruin? im doing somewhat of a project and id like to have a complete a list as possible. so far i can list

    -AKA
    -The E-mag
    -ICD(to a point)
    -Who did they steal the shocker from, was it PMI?


    i know about the lawsuits and such, id just like to find out who else was affected
  • hgp3fat
    What me worry?
    • Jun 2006
    • 68

    #2
    The X-Mag...

    And who knows how many others stopped working on new innovations just out of the fear of legal action.

    Comment

    • Cow hunter
      300fps=204.54mph
      • Aug 2005
      • 1521

      #3
      Originally posted by hgp3fat
      The X-Mag...

      And who knows how many others stopped working on new innovations just out of the fear of legal action.
      no that was stopped due to high production costs



      Originally posted by AutomagRT1483
      Dude. Do a search.
      nah, this is easier

      Comment

      • AutomagRT1483
        AutoWangRT1483
        • Oct 2002
        • 2987

        #4
        Dude. Do a search.

        Moderate with Equality & Consistency in 2005!
        AO-WI: Player's List - Now with over 100 People!!!
        Karta #082
        Member #007 of the Unoffical Trina Fan Club
        Great Traders: automagfreek, ClassicMagger, Emagster, fire1811, Kevmaster, MrMag, Nicad, oldsoldier, RogueFactor, SpongeBobSquarePantsx2 , SteveDx10+, The Frymarker, Treefall25, Tunamanx3, warpfeedmod
        In Loving Memory of Eric "Po" Ison Oct. 10, 1974 - Dec. 31, 2004

        Comment

        • hgp3fat
          What me worry?
          • Jun 2006
          • 68

          #5
          I stand corrected, one less reason to hate them.

          Can you just imagine the time and r&d dollars wasted by some companies and people after SP started with all the litagation. Just wiping the chalkboard clean of all those ideas, and having to start over with fresh ones... Hey on second thought maybe that was good for paintball...

          Just look at that new Tippmann Triumph for example. (warning: This comment is laden with sarcasm.)

          Comment

          • Toll
            Registered User
            • Jun 2005
            • 758

            #6
            Everyone laughs at it, but imagine the possibilities of getting a very cheap piece of kit that contains a was board and the tippmann innards and simply finding an empty 98 frame.


            Or lacking that, creating your own bastardization.

            Comment

            • JaKaL
              I am stuck on bandaid...
              • Jun 2006
              • 73

              #7
              They ruined paintball. To a point. They definately ruined innovation in the game by getting greedy.

              The shocker was stolen from PneuVentures Inc. "PVI"
              Straight up jacked. And then patented as their own innovation.

              Comment

              • REDRT
                Mags, Y use anything else
                • Apr 2004
                • 1854

                #8
                Smartparts didn't ruin anything really IMO. They put themselves in a position to be a industry leaders through hostle/lucrative business practices. Ironic how a once barrel company became an industry leader.
                AGD a once industry leader has become casturated has beens.

                Comment

                • Chronobreak
                  Rec Poster
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5055

                  #9
                  quality control

                  but that was long ago

                  Comment

                  • Lohman446
                    Useful posts: 7
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 9315

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JaKaL
                    They ruined paintball. To a point. They definately ruined innovation in the game by getting greedy.

                    The shocker was stolen from PneuVentures Inc. "PVI"
                    Straight up jacked. And then patented as their own innovation.
                    SP bought it from PVI. I guess when you go into the store your stealing too huh? Get your facts right before you begin to spew that type of nonsense.

                    As to the E-mag and X-mag TK flat out stated that there were a lot of reasons for the discontinuation of both. SP was just a drop in a very large bucket.

                    I don't understand how enforcement of intellectual property rights is wrong. I don't understand how anyone thinks it is. Don't get into this but.. but WDP Yeh, WDP and SP share a patent now. Is it easier for others to get hold of now? Oh... wait, the courts upheld that patent. WDP kind of backdoored their way into that patent with an employee of PVI not having signed a work product agreement. Good for them but it shows again, that buying something from PVI is not stealing it.
                    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

                    Comment

                    • SR_matt
                      Santa Sucks
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1072

                      #11
                      its the fact that they didnt come up with it and the fact that the patent was sooooooo wide that it was like saying "patent on a gas powered car"

                      IIRC wdp didnt back door at all, 2 people that haad the original patent promised it to 2 different people and thats what got messed up.

                      -matt

                      Comment

                      • Lohman446
                        Useful posts: 7
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 9315

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SR_matt
                        its the fact that they didnt come up with it and the fact that the patent was sooooooo wide that it was like saying "patent on a gas powered car"

                        IIRC wdp didnt back door at all, 2 people that haad the original patent promised it to 2 different people and thats what got messed up.

                        -matt
                        You're a patent attorney then? Because the outcomes of various cases and disputes seems to indicate to me that the courts and those who were part of it viewed it as valid.

                        A lot of companies do not come up with their own ideas. There is a VAST difference between purchased and "jacked"
                        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

                        Comment

                        • SR_matt
                          Santa Sucks
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 1072

                          #13
                          well just becasue the courts say its ok doest mean that it was, if some one was to ask teh average joe on the street which company rightfuly owned rights to a new chemical compound and threw out some random info to him do you think that 100% of the time he will make the right choice? no

                          o and no im not a lawyer but my father was a contracts lawyer for 20 years
                          -matt

                          Comment

                          • deathstalker
                            Fnord!
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 1115

                            #14
                            AKA is still around. They CHOSE not to make a deal with SP and therefore discontinued manufacturing Vikings and Excals. Considering you can still buy them brand new from AKA, I don't see how any damage was done. They still have them stocked.

                            ICD? Hmm, they've released several versions of the Freestyle and the Promaster since the whole "issue" began. I fail to see how they have been harmed, too.

                            Need a new sig pic? Click here!

                            Comment

                            • deathstalker
                              Fnord!
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 1115

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SR_matt
                              well just becasue the courts say its ok doest mean that it was, if some one was to ask teh average joe on the street...
                              Most "average joes" couldn't find the state they live in on a map.

                              Need a new sig pic? Click here!

                              Comment

                              Working...