So who/what exactly did SP ruin?

[Cow hunter]

So who/what did SP ruin? im doing somewhat of a project and id like to have a complete a list as possible. so far i can list

-AKA
-The E-mag
-ICD(to a point)
-Who did they steal the shocker from, was it PMI?


i know about the lawsuits and such, id just like to find out who else was affected

[hgp3fat]

The X-Mag...

And who knows how many others stopped working on new innovations just out of the fear of legal action.

[Cow hunter]

The X-Mag...

And who knows how many others stopped working on new innovations just out of the fear of legal action.

no that was stopped due to high production costs

Dude. Do a search.

nah, this is easier

[AutomagRT1483]

Dude. Do a search.

[hgp3fat]

I stand corrected, one less reason to hate them.

Can you just imagine the time and r&d dollars wasted by some companies and people after SP started with all the litagation. Just wiping the chalkboard clean of all those ideas, and having to start over with fresh ones... Hey on second thought maybe that was good for paintball...

Just look at that new Tippmann Triumph for example. (warning: This comment is laden with sarcasm.)

[Toll]

Everyone laughs at it, but imagine the possibilities of getting a very cheap piece of kit that contains a was board and the tippmann innards and simply finding an empty 98 frame.


Or lacking that, creating your own bastardization.

[JaKaL]

They ruined paintball. To a point. They definately ruined innovation in the game by getting greedy.

The shocker was stolen from PneuVentures Inc. "PVI"
Straight up jacked. And then patented as their own innovation.

[REDRT]

Smartparts didn't ruin anything really IMO. They put themselves in a position to be a industry leaders through hostle/lucrative business practices. Ironic how a once barrel company became an industry leader.
AGD a once industry leader has become casturated has beens.

[Chronobreak]

quality control

but that was long ago

[Lohman446]

They ruined paintball. To a point. They definately ruined innovation in the game by getting greedy.

The shocker was stolen from PneuVentures Inc. "PVI"
Straight up jacked. And then patented as their own innovation.

SP bought it from PVI. I guess when you go into the store your stealing too huh? Get your facts right before you begin to spew that type of nonsense.

As to the E-mag and X-mag TK flat out stated that there were a lot of reasons for the discontinuation of both. SP was just a drop in a very large bucket.

I don't understand how enforcement of intellectual property rights is wrong. I don't understand how anyone thinks it is. Don't get into this but.. but WDP Yeh, WDP and SP share a patent now. Is it easier for others to get hold of now? Oh... wait, the courts upheld that patent. WDP kind of backdoored their way into that patent with an employee of PVI not having signed a work product agreement. Good for them but it shows again, that buying something from PVI is not stealing it.

[SR_matt]

its the fact that they didnt come up with it and the fact that the patent was sooooooo wide that it was like saying "patent on a gas powered car"

IIRC wdp didnt back door at all, 2 people that haad the original patent promised it to 2 different people and thats what got messed up.

-matt

[Lohman446]

its the fact that they didnt come up with it and the fact that the patent was sooooooo wide that it was like saying "patent on a gas powered car"

IIRC wdp didnt back door at all, 2 people that haad the original patent promised it to 2 different people and thats what got messed up.

-matt

You're a patent attorney then? Because the outcomes of various cases and disputes seems to indicate to me that the courts and those who were part of it viewed it as valid.

A lot of companies do not come up with their own ideas. There is a VAST difference between purchased and "jacked"

[SR_matt]

well just becasue the courts say its ok doest mean that it was, if some one was to ask teh average joe on the street which company rightfuly owned rights to a new chemical compound and threw out some random info to him do you think that 100% of the time he will make the right choice? no

o and no im not a lawyer but my father was a contracts lawyer for 20 years
-matt

[deathstalker]

AKA is still around. They CHOSE not to make a deal with SP and therefore discontinued manufacturing Vikings and Excals. Considering you can still buy them brand new from AKA, I don't see how any damage was done. They still have them stocked.

ICD? Hmm, they've released several versions of the Freestyle and the Promaster since the whole "issue" began. I fail to see how they have been harmed, too.

[deathstalker]

well just becasue the courts say its ok doest mean that it was, if some one was to ask teh average joe on the street...

Most "average joes" couldn't find the state they live in on a map.