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  • thecavemankevin
    the living un-banned
    • Feb 2001
    • 4346

    #106
    Originally posted by Tool-of-death

    word over on pbnation is that it can reach 100 FULL cycles per second without shootdown..

    mmmmrrrrriiiigggghhhtttttttt


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    "virus attacks have been dealt with, same with back door nasties. ."

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    • Steelrat
      I meant to...uh, nevermind
      • May 2003
      • 5375

      #107
      Originally posted by Tool-of-death
      Badass gun looks nice can't wait for it to be released....

      BTW word over on pbnation is that it can reach 100 FULL cycles per second without shootdown..

      IMO Thats pretty insane :P
      I've heard that touching it can cure the sick. Also, it's been said that it can turn lead into gold!


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      • Indignant

        #108
        Originally posted by Steelrat
        I've heard that touching it can cure the sick. Also, it's been said that it can turn lead into gold!
        i saw it cure leprosy!

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        • Pneumagger
          I like 'Mags.

          • Jun 2006
          • 3556

          #109
          (cleqars throat and examines conversation record)

          Originally posted by nicad
          Good point you raise here about the 100 vs 83 cps. I was not clear about the two. Here is the entire story about each number:
          83: I placed a linear position sensor on the bolt, and captured its position over time with a digital O-scope. It showed the full movement of the bolt and it fully cycled in 12ms. However, the fact that there was a sensor attached to the bolt was slowing the bolt down, manifesting as a lower velocity (normally 290fps, dropped to 250fps). (Physics rule: you can't measure anything without affecting it).
          100: So, I removed the position sensor and placed a switch at the back stroke of the bolt, so that it only hits the switch when it is fully back. I know it is going fully forward because the shot dwell was giving a full 290fps shot. With this, I increased the CPS until the back switch was no longer getting hit by the bolt. At 100 cps (10ms) the cycles were still full. at 111.11 cps (9ms), the switch was not getting hit every time, so that was not full cycles.
          (sits back down)

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          • thecavemankevin
            the living un-banned
            • Feb 2001
            • 4346

            #110
            Originally posted by Pneumagger
            (cleqars throat and examines conversation record)



            (sits back down)
            i guess i should have added that my sarcasim was directed at the "no shoot-down" portion of the 100 cps comment. i can buy that 100 cps is possible, but with no shoot-down.....i call shens


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            • Pneumagger
              I like 'Mags.

              • Jun 2006
              • 3556

              #111
              colin also decribed the way he proved no shoot down through pressure monitoring. But I'm too lazy to go dig that up.

              Remember, because it is a blow forward, the forward dwell is invariably controlled by the time it takes for the bolt to exhaust the dump chamber given his forward dwell is set at what is need for 300fps. If the dump chamber pressures react in a manner consistent with normal slow firing...then due to the design, it is not shooting down. A blow forward will fail by not resetting the bolt rather than shooting down given that you don't purposelfully decrease the forward dwell to produce inflated BPS limits. Shootdown in a blow forward is caused by the regulator not being able to keep up the dump chamber pressures at the point of actuation.

              As long as the dump chamber pressure is up to snuff and the poppet dwell is the same (which they were measured to be) then there is no shootdown in the blow forward. As measured by a transducer tapped directly to the dunp chamber, his moonshine regulator was refilling the the dump chamber in 10ms (100cps) intervals.

              --> this means 100 full dwell no shootdown cycles. However, this is at the cost of zero rear dwell time making it highly unrealistic to feed paint into the breech until you slow down. What the aedes will do though is allow paint to load faster and more effortlessly actually achieving rates of fire seen in drop tests - thus further blurring the line between a hoppers "on gun" and "drop" performance.

              "For any given loader set up, the Aedes will throw more paint than any other gun on the market" And that is why colin can truthfully claim this.
              Last edited by Pneumagger; 09-25-2006, 10:25 AM.

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              • 11 Bravo
                Predatored Karta Mag
                • May 2005
                • 1247

                #112
                So does that mean it doesnt cure illness?

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                • Pneumagger
                  I like 'Mags.

                  • Jun 2006
                  • 3556

                  #113
                  yes, it can do that too. Until someone proves it can't cure illness...it can.

                  The proof is in the pudding as they. I eat my pudding, colin gives us the truths, and everybody feels happier. Sounds like some curing to me

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                  • nicad
                    wannabe newbe
                    • May 2002
                    • 992

                    #114
                    Originally posted by thecavemankevin
                    i guess i should have added that my sarcasim was directed at the "no shoot-down" portion of the 100 cps comment. i can buy that 100 cps is possible, but with no shoot-down.....i call shens
                    PBN called.. they want their HK phrase back.
                    10ms after the initiation of the cycle, the reg has the chamber back to full pressure. That comes to 100cps with full pressure for each shot = no shootdown

                    ColinMoritz

                    Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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                    • Pneumagger
                      I like 'Mags.

                      • Jun 2006
                      • 3556

                      #115
                      dude... I had it handled.

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                      • thecavemankevin
                        the living un-banned
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 4346

                        #116
                        Originally posted by nicad
                        PBN called.. they want their HK phrase back.
                        10ms after the initiation of the cycle, the reg has the chamber back to full pressure. That comes to 100cps with full pressure for each shot = no shootdown


                        dude, thats totally AGG and i stand corrected. I mean either way i am still looking very much forward to this guy and hope to be one of the first to purchase one, unless of course you'd like to send a guinea pig marker to me for further testing

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                        Last edited by thecavemankevin; 09-26-2006, 09:48 AM.


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                        • nicad
                          wannabe newbe
                          • May 2002
                          • 992

                          #117
                          Originally posted by thecavemankevin
                          edit:
                          hehe.. appreciated, but I am not to be worshiped.
                          ColinMoritz

                          Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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                          • Ydna
                            Paintball Manufacturer

                            • Apr 2004
                            • 264

                            #118
                            crap......you mean it's not helping that I keep sacrificing squirells on the alter of colin?
                            Andy "Ydna" DuBuc
                            Nummech Products & ZDSPB

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                            • shaunyoung000
                              I kill ya
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 676

                              #119
                              votes are in, I'll take one.
                              seriously, put me on preorder or something, I'll take one.
                              Any details on ordering? Obviously, I know that it hasn't been released.
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                              Yeah, that's right!

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                              • FinchMan
                                LVL10 classic minimag
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 459

                                #120
                                are you going to release the aedes and the moonshine reg at the same time?

                                You could probably make some good money by releasing the moonshine reg while you wait for the aedes to clear any legal/production obsticles.



                                Have you made any new videos yet?

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