What is the best pump?

[SR_matt]

best pump....im starting to think that this one is

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202898

no sterlings came in the late 80s early 90s Snipers are much older

also the valve of the sterling is like a Sherdian style, but the hammer is that of a Nelson
i hear the term, stacked nelson, but if were talking valve its a reversed Sherdian

hmm maybe im mixing up the chart i saw some one do up and of course i cant find it now. o well what ever matts wrong again not a surprise
-matt

[iambored]

munnin what your team place?

[Nutsnyomowf]

Sniper 2 well sprung and well regulated cant be beat.Add CCM pump kit and you can cock that bad boy with your index finger and very lil push.

[M-a-s-sDriver]

All pumps ar fun for what they are and do.
BUT...
If you want to be as close as possible to the performance and speed of a Semi or electronic gun, there is only one choice, and that is CCM.
I thrive playing pump in tournament environment play. If you want to scrimmage against high ROF, and have a gun as close as possible to your compitition, that's the one.
If you just want to knock around and save some money, go phantom or the like. If you want to pay too much to get CCM type performance get a houndstooth, although the Palmer gun will be much more efficient.
My opinion is based on years of experience playing with and against all these guns.
Brent.

[Lenny]

I've always loved Sheridans. Get a Palmer tune-up it it'll rock. Cooper-T and Palmer all sell CA adapters, and Palmer has a universal mounting block so you can actually mount a tank. And if you get a P68-SC or something, I'm sure you could rig a q-loader to it for open-pump; but then reverting it back to stock would be simple too. The only thing I have never liked about Sheridans is the fixed barrel, but that is easily overlooked.

Snipers are a nice call also in the manner that they can be altered and upgraded to you exact specification (because they take 'cocker parts). They can also be bought/built pretty cheaply as well.

[behemoth]

I thought about it but I didn't want an auto-trigger

so you take it off...


SS-25 is one of the smoothest, comfiest, lightest and most versatile markers i've owned.

Buy one. Now.

[pump]

Can you still get a sterling new? Dealers? (I've had horrible experiences with used markers and I can't stand something that I can't tinker with)
Doesn't AT increase trigger pull weight (if it isn't the hold the trigger down and pump)

sterlings...yeah, theres a new one thats out now, very nice except for the feed, the older ones were press fitted but dont have all the nice hardline and front ASA, but i like them more


and ATs dont do anything different to a pull

[Pneumagger]

I like my nelson based pump. Sinle tube is nice for sighting if you're used to mags and other monotube guns. The autotrigger is nice to have when needed. Plus, nelson valves only have 1 oring that would ever need replaced from wear, actually a cup seal, but whatever.

But the SS-25 is a great buy and wouldn't dissapoint you. They don't come stock with autotrigger. I'm pretty sure it's a separtate kit.

[slasherdan]

Seeing how I've owned just about every pump out there I have to say that this is how I rate my existing pumps:

1.) Tie between my Phantom and my Chipley ss25
2.) All the other Nelspots, Sheridans, and Snipers I've owned over the years.

The Phantom is great with it's 12 gram efficency. And the Chipley is just well ..... Really nice. I haven't owned a Illusion, seeing how the company was forced to fold, but I got to test one out for a few games and they were really nice to, but they were not a Phantom or Chipley.

If you don't want an auto trigger then you really have to search for an old model off e-bay. But to be honest it isn't hard to use a newer model and NOT use the auto trigger.

The Chipley isn't as good with 12 grams but Spaceman worked out a way to correct it, but it takes getting some parts and doing some machine work on them for the Chipley. Not an easy process ... but the man has, in my opinion, the most efficent cockers and sniper based pumps out there.

[Pneumagger]

CCM SS-25 + AGD 6pac. Prime the cocker with one 12 gram, eject, and use the rest for the game. That should solve the 12g problem.

6pac FTMFW

[Pneumagger]

OT:

Why doesn't AGD make the 6pac anymore? It was a great concept and the pump market is making a bit of a comback it seems. Doesn't seem like a moneyhole for AGD to put out a few hundred for the pump market.

[SlartyBartFast]

OT:

Why doesn't AGD make the 6pac anymore?

[slasherdan]

Well I think AGD is a little shy about coming out with products when they see some interest on the forum. I think they're worried that they will release the 6-pack for a limited release and then only sell like 3 of them.

I'd love to get my hands on one though. For both my Chipley and my Phantom it would be god send in keeping the wieght down.

[PumpPlayer]

The problem is the price point. In order to make it worth it for AGD to make the things, I would suspect that they would have to charge at least $125+.

A 7 ounce tank never needs hydro testing, is the same weight as a loaded 6pak and is the same length and angle. If you want to, you can put a buttplate on it. They cost $20. At most fields, they're free to fill as opposed to 12-grams which are 50 cents a pop.



I'd buy one simply because they're really cool.

But I doubt it would see the field very much...



As for which pump marker you should get, decide for yourself.
What kind of ROF are you going to 'need'? Are you limited to direct-feed markers or is stock feed going to be more to your liking? How do you want the marker set up? Vertical air and stock? 12-gram? Bottomline and tank? Do you want to use CO2 or HPA? Do you have a lot of one particular type of barrel and is barrel threading a concern?

If you're used to a semi setup, want to run HPA on a bottomline and want to use 'cocker barrels, then the sniper or SS25 is probably what you want. If you're not as concerned with ROF and simply want balls-on-nuts accuracy, don't need to run a big tank and you can live with a stock feed, you can't beat the Phantom.

I usually use a VSC .45 Phantom with the T-stock. I play up forward and take aimed shots at a modest ROF, usually never more than one or two without ducking back into my bunker again. The Phantom is perfect for me and I wouldn't consider using anything else, even though I have more expensive faire in my gear bag.

Hope that helps - good luck.

[peewee]

Having played with just about every type pump under the sun. My vote is for the phantom. Easy to upgrade cost less than an SS25 or palmer SS. I love me PGP fine but its my loaner . But you need to try a couple out for yourself. Some people dont like how light the phantom is in comparison to other markers. Any CCM pump is butter smooth great markers but cost a little more.