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  • cyrus-the-virus
    http://www.thepbforum.com/
    • Feb 2006
    • 1259

    #1

    Updated classic valve?

    Will AGD ever make a ULE version of the classic valves?

    I use CO2 and wouldent mind having a nicer looking Classic valve.
  • egb groupie
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 158

    #2
    Originally posted by cyrus-the-virus
    Will AGD ever make a ULE version of the classic valves?

    I use CO2 and wouldent mind having a nicer looking Classic valve.
    I believe this topic has been brought up in the past. I do believe it could generate limited, but new sales if they did come out with an aluminum valve due to the lighter weight, more consistent velocity, ability to use CO2, etc. When the ReTro valve was introduced and classic valves were being phased out, TK said that not enough interest was generated at the time to warrant doing a run of classic valves in aluminum. Sorry, but I just don't think it will ever happen, unless someone does it outside of AGD (highly unlikely)

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    • athomas
      Of course it works-its AGD
      • Jan 2002
      • 8039

      #3
      Its too bad. A ULT upgrade for the classic valve is quite easily done. The top part of the ULT on-off needs to be larger, thats all. With that, there will be more force to reset the on-off pin and sear.
      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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      • FinchMan
        LVL10 classic minimag
        • Nov 2004
        • 459

        #4
        yeah, i remember a few mods the elctrician did to a classic valve that increased it's recharge performance significantly.
        http://automags.org/forums/showthrea...=classic+valve

        Making an aluminum valve with those mods would really be cool, but it might hurt xvalve sells if it's too good.

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        • personman

          #5
          If it really bothers you, you could buy an xvalve, gut the reg, and then use an inline reg to adjust your velocity/pressure

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          • cyrus-the-virus
            http://www.thepbforum.com/
            • Feb 2006
            • 1259

            #6
            Originally posted by personman
            If it really bothers you, you could buy an xvalve, gut the reg, and then use an inline reg to adjust your velocity/pressure
            say what....

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            • personman

              #7
              You just take a few parts out of an xvalve and then use a regulator like a palmer stabilizer or a sidewinder or cp, etc.

              Edit: actually, now that i think about it, im not quite sure that would help with the co2 due to the design of xvalves..

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              • cyrus-the-virus
                http://www.thepbforum.com/
                • Feb 2006
                • 1259

                #8
                Originally posted by personman
                You just take a few parts out of an xvalve and then use a regulator like a palmer stabilizer or a sidewinder or cp, etc.

                Edit: actually, now that i think about it, im not quite sure that would help with the co2 due to the design of xvalves..
                X-valve don't work with CO2 because of the regulator.

                It uses slam regulation (or somthing like that) and that causes such an increase in pressure that the CO2 reverts back to a liquid form and damages/freezes the valves inner workings.

                Could you take the regulator parts of a classic valve and stick them inside an X-valve body?

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                • athomas
                  Of course it works-its AGD
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8039

                  #9
                  If you take out the regulator seat oring, then the air will flow freely. If you use an external regulator then the air coming into the valve is a reduced pressure. You won't have the same effect as the x-valve and CO2 won't be an issue.
                  Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                  • Lenny
                    I AM the AO famous!
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 1628

                    #10
                    Yeah... but that would kind of defeat the whole purpose of buying an X-Valve. Buying a $300 valve, just to destroy $200 of it really seems kind of pointless.
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                    • pump
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 750

                      #11
                      Originally posted by athomas
                      Its too bad. A ULT upgrade for the classic valve is quite easily done. The top part of the ULT on-off needs to be larger, thats all. With that, there will be more force to reset the on-off pin and sear.
                      wow very interesting....more and more my A.I.R. valve keeps impressing me

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                        • May 2004
                        • 500

                        #12
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                        • cyrus-the-virus
                          http://www.thepbforum.com/
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1259

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lenny
                          Yeah... but that would kind of defeat the whole purpose of buying an X-Valve. Buying a $300 valve, just to destroy $200 of it really seems kind of pointless.
                          And how are you destroying it? You could always just put the X-valve regulater back in and it would be fine.

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