The Fabled "Magic Box"

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  • warpfeedmod
    I came, I saw, I painted.
    • Jun 2001
    • 1265

    #1

    The Fabled "Magic Box"

    I can't believe someone still used this?

    Link to auction

    And what's with that air hose setup?

    The box was just an expansion chamber of sorts right?
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  • Rudz
    Registered User

    • Apr 2005
    • 5087

    #2
    meh

    microline is bad....and is it me or does that tank just look ooooold, i bet damn sure its out of hydro...
    BEO MAFIA
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    • SlartyBartFast
      The Flying Scotsman
      • Jun 2002
      • 2940

      #3
      Originally posted by warpfeedmod
      I can't believe someone still used this?
      Well, if it's what you've got, why not?

      Just a slightly bigger dump chamber to follow the hype of "lower pressure".

      Otherwise, the Mag will work like any other (although at the cost of lower efficiency I believe).

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      • CKY_Alliance
        Team Deranged
        • Jan 2005
        • 1695

        #4
        Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
        Well, if it's what you've got, why not?

        Just a slightly bigger dump chamber to follow the hype of "lower pressure".

        Otherwise, the Mag will work like any other (although at the cost of lower efficiency I believe).
        if it actually does make it run at a lower pressure....then wouldnt that mean BETTER efficiency?...
        lower pressure = less air = better efficiency or did i miss something...

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        • Rudz
          Registered User

          • Apr 2005
          • 5087

          #5
          meh

          Originally posted by CKY_Alliance
          if it actually does make it run at a lower pressure....then wouldnt that mean BETTER efficiency?...
          lower pressure = less air = better efficiency or did i miss something...

          apparently that was the theory, but it didnt work or they would have been more popular
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          • Arstron
            fusionowners.org

            • Mar 2005
            • 2347

            #6
            Originally posted by CKY_Alliance
            if it actually does make it run at a lower pressure....then wouldnt that mean BETTER efficiency?...
            lower pressure = less air = better efficiency or did i miss something...
            Actually, lower pressure = more air needed to move a paintball to 300 fps = less efficiency for an automag. Each gun design has a different range of pressure that it will perform with the best efficiency.

            Another words, lower pressure does not mean better efficiency with every gun.

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            • behemoth
              SVSTC?
              • Nov 2002
              • 7750

              #7
              Originally posted by Arstron
              Actually, lower pressure = more air needed to move a paintball to 300 fps = less efficiency for an automag. Each gun design has a different range of pressure that it will perform with the best efficiency.

              Another words, lower pressure does not mean better efficiency with every gun.
              Yeah...

              lower pressure = more air
              higher pressure = less air.


              damn kids...

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              • CKY_Alliance
                Team Deranged
                • Jan 2005
                • 1695

                #8
                Originally posted by Arstron
                Actually, lower pressure = more air needed to move a paintball to 300 fps = less efficiency for an automag. Each gun design has a different range of pressure that it will perform with the best efficiency.

                Another words, lower pressure does not mean better efficiency with every gun.

                ehh makes since...to an extent..

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                • behemoth
                  SVSTC?
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 7750

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CKY_Alliance
                  ehh makes since...to an extent..
                  ehh makes what since when?

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                  • ZEROte

                    #10
                    i couldnt resist as of this moment im the winning bidder.

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                    • ahellers
                      USCG "I save lives"
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 681

                      #11
                      how low does it make the pressure, depending on how deep you could shoot into the tank it would be more efficiant. but i dont know the numbers.
                      t

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                      • Temo Vryce
                        Super Chicken
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 1023

                        #12
                        I can't bid because I live in Canada.

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                        • warpfeedmod
                          I came, I saw, I painted.
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 1265

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZEROte
                          i couldnt resist as of this moment im the winning bidder.
                          yah 5 days left no reserve, I'll see what it's at in about 4 days and 23 hours :)
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                          • SlartyBartFast
                            The Flying Scotsman
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 2940

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ahellers
                            how low does it make the pressure, depending on how deep you could shoot into the tank it would be more efficiant. but i dont know the numbers.
                            t
                            No. Wrong. Reason the DUMB idea that low pressure = efficiency is such a load of stupid hype.

                            Which is more efficient?

                            Marker A : 1000 useful shots. 200 psi left in tank.
                            Marker B : 1000 useful shots. 800 psi left in tank.


                            Answer: Neither. "Efficiency" is how many shot you get between fills. Both get the same number.

                            Which is more efficient?

                            Marker A : 1000 useful shots. 100 psi left in tank.
                            Marker B : 1500 useful shots. 1000 psi left in tank.

                            Answer: Marker B. And according to Tom in various historical threads, something along marker B is possible. The only time Marker B with a higher working pressure would be a problem is if you can't get the higher pressure fills.

                            Just like with all else being equal, larger passages are better for flow. But all else is NOT EQUAL!. If you have a higher pressure, you can get the same flow through smaller passages...

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                            • Temo Vryce
                              Super Chicken
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 1023

                              #15
                              Well if Tanks have been made with a TC number for that long then I would say that the tank isn't that old as there is a TC number on the tank. The band of reflected light on the tank makes it a little difficult to read the label on the tank.

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