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  • Shirow
    www.digitalgunfire.com
    • Aug 2002
    • 2023

    #16
    Originally posted by CKY_Alliance
    The bearing cuts down on friction and makes smoother...think about a skateboard wheel on the truck (axle) without a bearing in it compared to a normal wheel with bearing....

    and trigger stops shorten you post and pre travel on your trigger...other words it shortens your trigger pull..you know how you can pull the trigger and it trips the sear but you can still pull the back..well the trigger stop eliminates this post travel..and you can put one in the top of the trigger too to shorten the forward travel...pretty much every electronic gun has them so next time your around one just look at the little screws in the trigger... so ye there ya go hope that helps.

    rogue you should consider making dm6 triggers..
    So why is there a warning on the page about using trigger stops, that it can cause excessive wear on the gun?

    I don't see how eliminating trigger post travel would do this.
    Superbolt

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    • SCpoloRicker
      HA HA I'm custom!!1
      • Jan 2004
      • 4375

      #17
      Originally posted by Triangle
      It turns your otherwise drab AGD into a supergun. Everything rogue is the best. Ever.
      Seriously.
      YA RLY!
      God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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      • Tool-of-death

        #18
        Originally posted by Shirow
        So why is there a warning on the page about using trigger stops, that it can cause excessive wear on the gun?

        I don't see how eliminating trigger post travel would do this.
        scratches in the anno

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        • Shirow
          www.digitalgunfire.com
          • Aug 2002
          • 2023

          #19
          Originally posted by RogueFactor
          There is a warning because they arent warrantied by AGD if improperly used. If improperly used, they can cause excessive wear.




          Shortening travel limits the surface area where the sear catches the edge of the bolt.

          Using trigger stops makes that surface area smaller, running the risk of chipping the lip of your sear and/or rounding the edge of your bolt. Both of which AGD will not replace because you decided to use trigger stops.
          Thanks for the explanation.
          Superbolt

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          • Shirow
            www.digitalgunfire.com
            • Aug 2002
            • 2023

            #20
            So if I decided to use the trigger stops, does anyone have a walkthrough or guide on how to set them up properly in order to shorten the trigger pull without damaging the bolt/sear?
            Superbolt

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            • CKY_Alliance
              Team Deranged
              • Jan 2005
              • 1695

              #21
              i believe there is a thread around here about that, search for it..or im sure rogue can.

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              • Madmarx
                Mentally Unstable

                • Jun 2006
                • 2867

                #22
                I like the RC car comparison. If this is a noticable difference then why not do a sear the same way?

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                • egb groupie
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 158

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shirow
                  So if I decided to use the trigger stops, does anyone have a walkthrough or guide on how to set them up properly in order to shorten the trigger pull without damaging the bolt/sear?
                  Basically in my experience, the only trigger stop you need to use really is the one that controls the forward travel. On a viperblade, this is the set screw at the top of the trigger. It will take out the "slack" or "slop" of the trigger, and your trigger will rest directly on the trigger rod. Makes for a nice crisp pull with a quick let off. The other trigger stop which controls rearward travel, is not needed in my opinion, unless it is a very unusual setup that requires it. Due to vibrations of the gun during firing, I would experiment with where exactly the screw has to go for your trigger, and then loc-tite it with low strength loc-tite only, in case future adjustments are neccesary. The screws will, and have fallen out on me during rapid firing strings....

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                  • CKY_Alliance
                    Team Deranged
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 1695

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Madmarx
                    I like the RC car comparison. If this is a noticable difference then why not do a sear the same way?

                    they do for autocockers..and i was going to ask the like luke about making one but i dont shoot a mag so it wouldnt do me any good....

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                    • Lenny
                      I AM the AO famous!
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 1628

                      #25
                      ^^^CKY, I though RT sears have a bearing in them? I don't have an RT sear, so I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere.

                      Rogue, any chance this'll fit in my UMF? I like the UMF trigger alot, don't get me wrong. Coolhand (forgot his real name) did a great job with the frame and trigger. I just think there's room for improvment with the trigger. If not, no big deal.

                      Thanks!
                      Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
                      ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

                      Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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                      • mobsterboy
                        Mr.StealYoDallara

                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2371

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lenny
                        ^^^CKY, I though RT sears have a bearing in them? I don't have an RT sear, so I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere.

                        Rogue, any chance this'll fit in my UMF? I like the UMF trigger alot, don't get me wrong. Coolhand (RYAN S.) did a great job with the frame and trigger. I just think there's room for improvment with the trigger. If not, no big deal.

                        Thanks!
                        oh, look, you remembered suddenly
                        RAWR
                        Dallara Den

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                        • Lenny
                          I AM the AO famous!
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 1628

                          #27
                          Originally posted by RogueFactor
                          No, it wont. Coolhand made his frames only to accept his triggers(from what Ive been told). RPG triggers are made to AGD specs and will fit my frames and AGD frames.
                          All right. Thanks.
                          Autocockers are the greatest markers ever made.
                          ~The greatest BACKUP markers to AUTOMAGS!!

                          Only temporary, get'n a new sig soon.

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                          • CKY_Alliance
                            Team Deranged
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 1695

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lenny
                            ^^^CKY, I though RT sears have a bearing in them? I don't have an RT sear, so I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere.

                            Rogue, any chance this'll fit in my UMF? I like the UMF trigger alot, don't get me wrong. Coolhand (forgot his real name) did a great job with the frame and trigger. I just think there's room for improvment with the trigger. If not, no big deal.

                            Thanks!
                            I think your right..i think that brass piece may be a bearing.. i never really paid attention to it when i had a mag..and no longer have one for a reference. Rogue is the little brass piece a bearing or just a "cuff" or washer type thing to add some "meat" for the sear to rotate on?

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                            • egb groupie
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 158

                              #29
                              On the original RT, there was a bearing on the sear, but this was discontinued after the RT Pro came out and we now have the brass sleeve that is on the sear that you see today.

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                              • CKY_Alliance
                                Team Deranged
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1695

                                #30
                                I see, ye i couldnt think of the proper terminology..did the sear add a roller trigger like feel? i sure it lessened the resistance some..that paired with a roller trigger and ULT would prolly make for a nice trigger... ever considered putting them into production rogue?


                                why did agd quit making them?

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