what is the best mag barell?

[robnix]

Most guns have a best barell, for example spyders and progressives, tippmanns and j&js. Does the mag have a "best" barell for it? post what you think is best. i'll start, i heard twist-lock lapcos (discontinued, at least I think so) are pretty good.

My Stiffi and J&J couldn't shoot straight at all today, my Speedline was a champ. Other days it's different. Last time I played my Bizerk barrel seemed to work best.

[chettacheez]

Tippmann Super Chromium...

[Shirow]

I've always liked my J&J Ceramic but I have a feeling it's probably a very subjective thing..

[kruger]

And, I have found that the stock Dye Matrix barrels are the most accurate and quietest barrels for me. They also kinda resemble a Howitzer barrel. They are the same blanks as the Ultra-Lite, just milled differently on the outside. And, you can still find them for cheap

[minimag03]

Most guns have a best barell, for example spyders and progressives, tippmanns and j&js. Does the mag have a "best" barell for it? post what you think is best. i'll start, i heard twist-lock lapcos (discontinued, at least I think so) are pretty good.

Your thoughts are totally off. There is no barrel that is "best" for a type of gun. Most experienced players will just use whatever is polished decently and has some porting. That's about all you can ask for out of a barrel.

[Lohman446]

Most guns have a best barell, for example spyders and progressives, tippmanns and j&js.

What? You realize they make different bore sizes of the same barrel right?

Get a 22" "sniper" rifled and spiral ported barrel Great accuracy :)

[Shane-O-Mac]

while I agree with most of the answeres in this thread, I have to throw my 2 cents in.

Barrel to paint match, isnt as important as some think it is. The only thing that you really want to keep from happening, is that the barrel is too tight for your paint. A barrel that lets paint roll out is ok, as the detents keep the ball in place. Now the only major problem with a barrel that is too big, is you lose some efficency (not alot either), but with todays fields having all day air, effiency isnt as important. If you playing with 12 grams in a pumpmag or other pump, then paint to barrel match is more important. I can shoot paint just as accuratley with a larger barrel, than one perfectly matched. Barrel kits are nice, just to make sure you have a barrel that will allow the paintball to not break in it.


And there are a few things that can make a another barrel "better". It is subjective, but IMHO, a ceramic coated barrel is the best all around barrel, just for the shoot clean properties. Also porting style could make them quieter or louder. Whats the "Best" barrel? The one that fits your needs, and one you like.

My vote, If you are only gonna get one barrel, a J&J Ceramic one piece, are barrels you cant go wrong with. Biggest thing to remember, buy good paint, that makes your gun shoot better than changing barrels.


Shane-O

[don miguel]

while I agree with most of the answeres in this thread, I have to throw my 2 cents in.

Barrel to paint match, isnt as important as some think it is. The only thing that you really want to keep from happening, is that the barrel is too tight for your paint. A barrel that lets paint roll out is ok, as the detents keep the ball in place. Now the only major problem with a barrel that is too big, is you lose some efficency (not alot either), but with todays fields having all day air, effiency isnt as important. If you playing with 12 grams in a pumpmag or other pump, then paint to barrel match is more important. I can shoot paint just as accuratley with a larger barrel, than one perfectly matched. Barrel kits are nice, just to make sure you have a barrel that will allow the paintball to not break in it.


And there are a few things that can make a another barrel "better". It is subjective, but IMHO, a ceramic coated barrel is the best all around barrel, just for the shoot clean properties. Also porting style could make them quieter or louder. Whats the "Best" barrel? The one that fits your needs, and one you like.

My vote, If you are only gonna get one barrel, a J&J Ceramic one piece, are barrels you cant go wrong with. Biggest thing to remember, buy good paint, that makes your gun shoot better than changing barrels.


Shane-O

thank you for you suggestion I appriciate that.

[warbeak2099]

J&J Edges come in ceramic too. Then you'd have the shoot clean properties and better accuracy because you can match paint to bore. And technically, you will have better accuracy if your paint isnt wobbling around in your too-big barrel bore.

[Shane-O-Mac]

The one piece J&J barrel clean out better because there is no oversized front bore. But
I do like the 2 piece edge kits, the only thing that makes them better is being able to make sure your paint isnt too tight, and cause barrel breaks. But when trying to clean out a barrel in the middle of a game, a one piece barrel is much easier to clean out.


As for the barrel matching controversy, Many tourney guys have been using oversized barrels so that they had no barrel breaks, and with open bolt guns you dont need a perfect barrel to paint match. I tried it my self, and didnt see any difference in accuracy, WITH good paint that is. Bad paint likes a barrel bore closer to a match but in my opinion, and experiance, paint matching is overrated. Manike even commented on this awhile back, he was using a .693 or so barrel in tourneys.


Shane-O

[warbeak2099]

I find it easier to clean a barrel if you can unscrew it in half but w/e...

And I'll respectfully disagree with you on the bore sizing because of what has been found from actually testing it. Not just TK, obviously other engineering/physics based experiments have found the same correlation.

The ceramic barrel is self-cleaning because of its internal coating. No it won't clean out the front peice, but usually the break is in the back section. The front peice doesn't affect the ball's flight path anyways, only the first 6-8" of the barrel. And if the bore is too big, it will not clean it. So there's another reason to match your bore and paint.

[Shane-O-Mac]

I havent seen any REAL tests on paint to barrel matching, is there some out there that you have seen/read? I am going off personal experiance, which isnt very scientific......LOL.

Shane-O

[warbeak2099]

Here's one example from the man himself:

http://www.automags.org/resource/tech/tomstech/02_boresize.shtml

[Shane-O-Mac]

I figured Tom would have done it...LOL. I didnt remember that one, I thought I had read all of his tests.

Reading this excerpt is very interesting:

"Even the biggest to the smallest barrels don't product that much difference in accuracy IF YOU ONLY COUNT THE SHOTS AT THE SAME VELOCITY. So there you have it, I should mention these studies were done in the early to mid nineties, we have not done any testing lately on two piece barrels etc."


So a good barrel match can provide better consistency, but no change in accuracy. Good stuff to read.

A new test with 2 piece barrels would be interesting.

In the end, everyone has their favorite barrel or barrels. Most of us have tried alot of them, and have our own favorites. I personally do have a barrel kit (Freak), but it is used mostly for roll out issues with my pump guns. I usally chose a size larger than what the ball is fitting for the odd larger ball.

Shane-O

[warbeak2099]

Yea that's true. While consistancy and accuracy are two seperate variables, they do both affect where the ball will land. So, it's still important to being able to hit someone or something.