Is it ever OK

[thrawn]

Reoint blank

Hey all, Im interested in the community's feedback on something...

This season I watched two players explode into a point blank shooting incident. One player accused his team mate of shooting his marker too close to his head and the shooter then replied he wasn't hitting him and proceeded to shoot. In responce the player complaining then shot the other point blank in the mask. This lead to about 3 or 4 more shots from each player directed at the other at point blank range.

There is a bit of a back-story in that the two players had not been seeing eye to eye on the team leadership for almost the entire season.

1. Is it ever OK to shoot anyone like that?
2. If the "first point blank shooter" was the team capt. would you stay on the team?

One last question:
If it was your friend that was shot point blank by the team capt. and you were also a member of the team, would you stay on the team or is this something that can just be put behind and the players apologize and continue like it never happend?

I have my opinion (unforgivable and now has resulted in "trust issues" ) but Im currious what you guys think....

Shooting someone point blank is NEVER ok,unless somehow your finger slips and you shoot without wanting to (or meaning too).
As for staying on the team,i'd give the guy annother chance before I went off the team,or threw him off the team.

[Pullman]

Ummm guys,

I think we're kind of missing the point. Regardless of whether or not the equipment "can take it" their captain was being ridiculous. I wouldn't want a guy like that on my team. Can we all agree that if he had say missed the mask and hit the guy in the neck that it would have resulted in a bloody welt? We all take the risk of getting one of those when we play paintball, but I would prefer not to get it from some one that is supposed to be on my team.

Wow two guys managed to post before I got this up. It was in response to pump, shirow, and bentothejam1n

[Toll]

Imo :

That may as well be assault. I doubt I'd play for that team and if it was my friend that was the "victim" I'd most likely back him, though I don't know about straight out leave...would depend on alot.

[Shirow]

Ummm guys,

I think we're kind of missing the point. Regardless of whether or not the equipment "can take it" their captain was being ridiculous. I wouldn't want a guy like that on my team. Can we all agree that if he had say missed the mask and hit the guy in the neck that it would have resulted in a bloody welt? We all take the risk of getting one of those when we play paintball, but I would prefer not to get it from some one that is supposed to be on my team.

Wow two guys managed to post before I got this up. It was in response to pump, shirow, and bentothejam1n

Well, my first response was 'are you asking if it's OK to be an immature brat?'

I got into the equipment argument later

[RRfireblade]

If you honestly don't know the answer to those 2 questions , then I don't you on a paintball field either.


Seriously.

[pump]

then I don't you on a paintball field either.

huh???????????

[Lupis Fidelis]

Mr Fireblade...

I have my own opinion.

I was putting this out there to see how others felt about the situation. Perhaps I was hoping for some support from the community before I walked away from an award winning team.

I have been in this game for almost 2 decades and believe me, I know what is right and what is wrong. I have seen the attitudes on the fields evolve and seen certain courtesies all but disappear.

[Pullman]

Well, my first response was 'are you asking if it's OK to be an immature brat?'

I got into the equipment argument later

Ah, you're right. My bad.

[Lohman446]

I have my own opinion (which was stated at the end of my original post) and the tone of your reply is not appreciated.

I was putting this out there to see how others felt about the situation. Perhaps I was hoping for some support from the community before I walked away from an award winning team.

I have been in this game for almost 2 decades and believe me, I know what is right and what is wrong. I have seen the attitudes on the fields evolve and seen certain courtesies all but disappear. Now, before I hi-jack my own thread... I ask you to either post something constructive or you and your high horse can move right along.... Funny how your remark reminds me of the same captain that shot my friend.


Seriously.

Geez, we go a little overboard when your questioned? Yeh... I think it might be the right team for you in consideration.

[RRfireblade]

I have my own opinion (which was stated at the end of my original post) and the tone of your reply is not appreciated.

I was putting this out there to see how others felt about the situation. Perhaps I was hoping for some support from the community before I walked away from an award winning team.

I have been in this game for almost 2 decades and believe me, I know what is right and what is wrong. I have seen the attitudes on the fields evolve and seen certain courtesies all but disappear. Now, before I hi-jack my own thread... I ask you to either post something constructive or you and your high horse can move right along.... Funny how your remark reminds me of the same captain that shot my friend.


Seriously.

Puh -leeze.

You post a question of the most basic moral character and safety and ask "What should I do ? ".

"Is it wrong to lash out in a brutal display of anger and violence?"

"Is it wrong to completely endanger the safety of myself, my team mates and everyone (including innocent bystanders) with in say 100 feet of ourselves?"

"Is it wrong to encourage and support this behavior ?"

"Should I continue to encourge and support this behavior ? "



Maybe I'm just getting burned out on forums but come on now , do you really need the opinions of complete strangers to "Help you out" on this ?



Sorry if you didn't like the apparently obvious response. You don't get to choose only the answers you 'want' to hear on a public forum.

And yeah , if you really need help figuring the situation out then I consider you just as much of a hazard to those around you as your 'Award Winning' compadres.

[phizz]

I would be very upset if it was my friend getting shot, or any team member getting shot point blank especially from the captain. I would quit the team.

[AZ_09]

No i dont think its right. Playing paintball is suppose to be fun. When people start to get to serious about it, then it gets to be a problem. I would of quit playing with them earlier if they were argueing and not getting along. Or just tell them to stop

[Lupis Fidelis]

ok

What this comes down to is that I feel what happened is one of the worst things that can happen on the field.. It's right there with putting your hands on someone.


I did not post here looking for answers I posted for opinions, and granted I definately got some.

Some of the details are shady and to be honest there are members of my team that have dismissed the whole thing by saying "he had it coming"......

"And yeah, if you really need help figuring the situation out then I consider you just as much of a hazard to those around you as your 'Award Winning' compadres".

As was mentioned above: prior friendships have made aspects of this situation more difficult. This is not a team or a person that I can just be cut and dry about; however I have let some time pass and no matter if some have let it go, I can't.

So there it is. I posted the question because obviously some can or will, try to justify such a thing.

[thegrayghost]

eyes are only once

the whole thing is just plain stupid...i don't care what the circumstances are, but you can not shoot point blank range, at any time...are your eyes, not that precious to you? do you not want to see and have vision, yes? because of a stupid, heat of the anger moment, eyes could have been lost...those goggles are not made to protect forever...safety should be paramount

[pump]

is everyone saying that its not safe to get shot in the googles point black range?


if so.....what about bunkering? why is that ok?