What are the differences in mags?

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  • flyboy
    Registered User
    • Apr 2006
    • 191

    #1

    What are the differences in mags?

    Ok, Im fairly new to mags - currently have an emag with a predator board.

    I see them refered to by all sorts of diff names. Is there a doc some where that explains the differences in them?

    Like, theres automag, xmag, RT, ULE and so forth.

    We are looking to replace my sons Autococker with a new or used mag and I'm trying to make heads or tails of the difference in them.
  • jenarelJAM
    Club Coordinator
    • Dec 2004
    • 1611

    #2
    Automag-generic term for any sort of mag, also there is the 68 automag which is similar to the pro classic. They both use classic valves and are kinda the lower end of the mags, although perfectly fine for everyday play.
    Minimag-similar to above, not quite sure about the differences.
    RT- Reactive Trigger automag. Uses an RT, Emag, or Xvalve Valve. Usually has a double trigger(intelliframe) and can accept the ULT, (Ultra Light Trigger kit, or something like that). RT and Emag valves are the same, Stainless steel, Xvalve is aluminum.
    Emag-Like an RT, but with a solenoid to pull the sear. Includes backup mech mode, which operates very similar to an RT.
    Xmag- Like Emag, but has ACE(anti-chop eye). And it just looks cooler.
    Devilmag- The exclusive electric alternative to the emag. Few have them. Uses a predator board and eyes instead of lvlX.
    Pneumag- lightest mechanical trigger I've ever heard of. comparable to electric, but without batteries or a circuit board etc.

    ULE stands for Ultra Light Engineering. There are ULE bodies, ULE emag frames, ULE everything... It just refers to milling done to reduce weight.
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    • craltal
      MCB, baby...
      • Oct 2003
      • 1452

      #3
      Originally posted by jenarelJAM
      Automag-generic term for any sort of mag, also there is the 68 automag which is similar to the pro classic. They both use classic valves and are kinda the lower end of the mags, although perfectly fine for everyday play.
      Minimag-similar to above, not quite sure about the differences.
      RT- Reactive Trigger automag. Uses an RT, Emag, or Xvalve Valve. Usually has a double trigger(intelliframe) and can accept the ULT, (Ultra Light Trigger kit, or something like that). RT and Emag valves are the same, Stainless steel, Xvalve is aluminum.
      Emag-Like an RT, but with a solenoid to pull the sear. Includes backup mech mode, which operates very similar to an RT.
      Xmag- Like Emag, but has ACE(anti-chop eye). And it just looks cooler.
      Devilmag- The exclusive electric alternative to the emag. Few have them. Uses a predator board and eyes instead of lvlX.
      Pneumag- lightest mechanical trigger I've ever heard of. comparable to electric, but without batteries or a circuit board etc.

      ULE stands for Ultra Light Engineering. There are ULE bodies, ULE emag frames, ULE everything... It just refers to milling done to reduce weight.
      Couple of fixes:

      Minimags have a different body than the regular mags, but these use the older twist-lock variety barrels
      Devilmags aren't the only alternative to emags. You can get a sear tripper electronic frame to fit onto a mag with a bit of modification (usually Spyder or Dragun frames)
      Pneumags are individually modified mechanical mags that utilize pneumatics.

      Your basic parts to a mag are:
      Body (can be a stainless body that uses the twistlock barrels or an aluminum one that uses cocker threaded barrels, usually ULE or some variant)
      Rail
      Gripframe (single or double trigger, also can be electronic, see above)
      Valve (classic or some variant of the RT valve)

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      • flyboy
        Registered User
        • Apr 2006
        • 191

        #4
        Originally posted by jenarelJAM
        Automag-generic term for any sort of mag, also there is the 68 automag which is similar to the pro classic. They both use classic valves and are kinda the lower end of the mags, although perfectly fine for everyday play.
        Minimag-similar to above, not quite sure about the differences.
        RT- Reactive Trigger automag. Uses an RT, Emag, or Xvalve Valve. Usually has a double trigger(intelliframe) and can accept the ULT, (Ultra Light Trigger kit, or something like that). RT and Emag valves are the same, Stainless steel, Xvalve is aluminum.
        Emag-Like an RT, but with a solenoid to pull the sear. Includes backup mech mode, which operates very similar to an RT.
        Xmag- Like Emag, but has ACE(anti-chop eye). And it just looks cooler.
        Devilmag- The exclusive electric alternative to the emag. Few have them. Uses a predator board and eyes instead of lvlX.
        Pneumag- lightest mechanical trigger I've ever heard of. comparable to electric, but without batteries or a circuit board etc.

        ULE stands for Ultra Light Engineering. There are ULE bodies, ULE emag frames, ULE everything... It just refers to milling done to reduce weight.
        Thanks!!! That clears the fog.

        So I have a hybrid devilmag, predator board with no eyes. Or an just an Emag...

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        • craltal
          MCB, baby...
          • Oct 2003
          • 1452

          #5
          Devilmags used a different gripframe from the standard emag ones, I want to say either a centerflag hyperframe or modified 90* frames, both which run off of a 9V inside the grips. Emags use a battery pack in the foregrip position, see mine below

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          • ahellers
            USCG "I save lives"
            • Jan 2006
            • 681

            #6
            naming your automag
            heres the guide to naming your auto mag spiecies.

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            • warbeak2099
              That is my foot!
              • Jan 2004
              • 4447

              #7
              Um he said he has a Predator in his Emag. Do you mean a Predatored Morlock or an actual Emag Predator board? If it's the latter, HOW THE HELL???? Easy way to tell, if the board is really tiny it's a Morlock.
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              • flyboy
                Registered User
                • Apr 2006
                • 191

                #8
                Originally posted by warbeak2099
                Um he said he has a Predator in his Emag. Do you mean a Predatored Morlock or an actual Emag Predator board? If it's the latter, HOW THE HELL???? Easy way to tell, if the board is really tiny it's a Morlock.

                I'll have to look. All I know is that instead of the standard LCD panel a blue light shines in what would be the lcd window to show that its on. And to program it you use trigger pull - light flash combinations.

                I know I don't have a devil mag, was making a poor attempt at being toungue and cheek.

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                • warbeak2099
                  That is my foot!
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4447

                  #9
                  It sounds like a Morlock.
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                  • don miguel
                    the legend
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1141

                    #10
                    Your mag differs depending on the valve. I have a minimag because it says minimag on the valve. If you have an rt valve you have an RT. if you have an x valve you have an xmag, but since thier is a type of mag actually called an xmag then when you are bragging to your friends about having an xmag, be sure to include info on electro or not, and if electro xmag, or emag lowers. Or if you want to keep it simple say you have a (any agd stock gun) with an xvalve.
                    XMAG

                    AUTOMAG W/ XVALVE

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                    • A-Tach-One
                      I'm done!!!!

                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2204

                      #11
                      ^^^^This is incorrect^^^^ I have an XValve in my Pump mag does that make it an XMag pump? Nope, it is still a pumpmag no matter what valve I put in it. A mechanical mag with an xvalve is not an XMag. Going by valves does not tell you what kind of marker you have. The pic of the XMag you supplied has an Emag valve in it but it's still an "XMag"

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                      • warbeak2099
                        That is my foot!
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4447

                        #12
                        don, that was just a whole lot of wrongness. It was so wrong I had to go and make up a word, "wrongness".

                        If you have an X-valve it does not mean you have an Xmag. The first Xmags didn't even have X-valves. They had SS Emag valves that said Emag Xtreme. Your picture that you posted even shows that! Jesus! And that's a Micromag with an X-valve, not an Automag. You could have an RT Pro with an X-valve or an RT ULE with X-valve. The valve does not signify what kind of gun you have.
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                        • REDRT
                          Mags, Y use anything else
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1854

                          #13
                          Originally posted by warbeak2099
                          Um he said he has a Predator in his Emag. Do you mean a Predatored Morlock or an actual Emag Predator board? If it's the latter, HOW THE HELL???? Easy way to tell, if the board is really tiny it's a Morlock.
                          Originally posted by warbeak2099
                          It sounds like a Morlock.
                          Well it could be the first predator board or it could be the mini morlock w/predator code. Pretty close to the same thing, but they are in fact to different boards physically. Not that it matters.
                          Originally posted by flyboy
                          So I have a hybrid devilmag, predator board with no eyes. Or an just an Emag...
                          A Predator Emag to be more correct. That sums it up pretty well.

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                          • don miguel
                            the legend
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1141

                            #14
                            Originally posted by warbeak2099
                            don, that was just a whole lot of wrongness. It was so wrong I had to go and make up a word, "wrongness".

                            If you have an X-valve it does not mean you have an Xmag. The first Xmags didn't even have X-valves. They had SS Emag valves that said Emag Xtreme. Your picture that you posted even shows that! Jesus! And that's a Micromag with an X-valve, not an Automag. You could have an RT Pro with an X-valve or an RT ULE with X-valve. The valve does not signify what kind of gun you have.
                            so if I put an x valve in my minimag is it still a minimag? or a minimag with an xvalve?

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                            • wimag
                              BEZERKERS
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 1334

                              #15
                              Originally posted by don miguel
                              so if I put an x valve in my minimag is it still a minimag? or a minimag with an xvalve?
                              RT'd mini mag
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